Client insists I use FrontPage

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by Chacala_Nayarit, Jan 25, 2006.

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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    zimv20

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    those are the old designs, yes?
     
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    Use Frontpage 1.0 and surprise them with static HTML. :)
     
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    geese

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    **Shiver** I've had to work with Frontpage 2000 on a crappy Compaq Windows 98 machine for 2 whole years for a companies intranet.

    Seeing that first webpage reminded me of other staff writing awful intranet pages, insisting on aligning objects with the space key, rather then using tables. Urgh.

    At least he's not insisting you use templates!

    Oh, on link http://lakes1865.com you might want to try and get those crappy images optimised- it took a fail while to load on my broadband connection.
     
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    Nuc

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    Find a job?

    Well the web pages aren't the greatest by any standard. I'm not sure if they would care for you posting their websites on a forum and then talking negatively about it.

    Why not make a website using something else and then show it to them, they might go for it. Anyways hope your passing your drug tests. Best of luck!

    Nuc
     
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    homerjward

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    it's good that you managed to find a job

    but damn do those web sites suck...

    and about frontpage, you can just code it in your favorite application and then edit the meta information in the head to say frontpage. other than the non-awful code they won't be able to tell the difference, even looking at the source.
     
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    ChicoWeb

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    This is a joke right?
     
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    londonweb

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    he's a madman- if I saw that page as a customer I'd think it was a 4th grade school project put together by the 'slow group'. Plus you don't need frontpage to make it look that awful, you could make just as big a balls-up of it using decent software.

    Have some design integrity and convince this guy to do it differently.
     
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    notjustjay

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    Tell your client that I would NEVER call him, based solely on the crappy image presented by that web page.

    And I don't know who Apollo Hosting is, but I would never ever call them either.

    Sorry, but on the internet, image is everything.

    I started coding HTML (by hand, even) in 1995, and those web pages look crappy even by THOSE standards.

    Sorry to be harsh, though I suspect you knew it was coming :)
     
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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    Did I say one thing negative about them? The client said ad verbatim "I like the look of the dis-organized..." :rolleyes:

    Oh, and I do not take drug tests as a Web Designer or my other job as an electrician! :p
     
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    ITASOR

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    heh, i'd sure want you messing with my electricity. hopefully you don't do this when you're high?
     
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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    I do not get high at work, only drink wine at home. Being an electrician (residential wiring) is easy. Now for the last part of the day I am designing. The client wanted me to make photo albums in FrontPage (yikes! :eek: ), but I managed to convince him that Photoshop kicks out good albums. So using a more tolerable shortcut.

    I normally use XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, and Photoshop for everything from layout to effects. No tables, ****** code, or crap images.
     
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    Les Kern

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    Since when does the client get to choose the tools? So how about telling a home builder what hammer to use? It's the end product. He is doing nothing for YOUR career by insisting you use **** to build his site. Let some other idiot do it.
    Jesus CHRIST that's horrible.
     
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    Les Kern

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    I personally didn't think of this... yep, HAS to be. That's one butt-wad of crap pair of sites.
     
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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    I am doing some photo galleries, but I could not layout in CSS, although Photoshop was not a bad alternative. The photo galleries are better than the index page. I have free reign over the next site I am doing. The link above (clientopia) has stories of clients dictating the design to the point of the client designing the site, so it's not unheard of in the industry.
     
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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    As simple as this vanilla HTML site should be, every time the owner publishes in FrontPage it ****s up the work I have done. Creating multiple index pages and includes which do not exist. To double the bs, I cannot edit from the hosting cpanel because FrontPage asigns read only to the permisions, therefor forceing me to use FrontPage. uggggggg!!!!!:mad: :rolleyes:
     
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    superbovine

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    shrug, as long as they are paying me for my billable hours; I usually just say "yes sir/madam" then add more billable hours. :D
     
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    Chacala_Nayarit

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    Damn straight! :D
     
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    bobber205

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    OMG. That is SO bad...
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    I can't believe it...

    And the central logo must be like 3 megs in size... it STILL hasn't loaded all the way on my computer as of this message...

    Sorry dude about having to use Frontpage. :(
     

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