CLONES, do they have SOULS?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by meepm00pmeep, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. meepm00pmeep macrumors 6502

    meepm00pmeep

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    #1
    if mankind were to clone humans do you think that the clones would have their own individual souls?
     
  2. jsw Moderator emeritus

    jsw

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2004
    Location:
    Andover, MA
    #2
    They'd have souls if the original did. Whether or not people have souls at all is another topic.
     
  3. iGav macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    #3
    Nothing has a soul... that's just religious cobblers.
     
  4. meepm00pmeep thread starter macrumors 6502

    meepm00pmeep

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    #4
    but (saying that souls exist) how would a soul be split amoung more than one being... let's say they cloned 10, 20, 30 of the same individual... would they each have a share to one soul or would they each have their own individual souls?
     
  5. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    #5
    A soul is not something you have... it's something you are. ;)
     
  6. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    #6
    Isn't this a debate best left to the musicians in this genre.

    Clone a couple/few of them and still see if they've "got it" and can crank out some all new soul music.
     
  7. zimv20 macrumors 601

    zimv20

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2002
    Location:
    toronto
    #7
    the number of souls would increase according to the fibonnaci series.
     
  8. mdntcallr macrumors 65816

    mdntcallr

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    #8
    who knows, i believe that they would have their own distinct identity or personality.

    that said. i don't believe cloning is a good idea. but it isnt necessarily immoral to me.

    it's just science.
     
  9. skunk macrumors G4

    skunk

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Location:
    Republic of Ukistan
    #9
    And they would each give an Elliot Wave as they passed.
     
  10. MACDRIVE macrumors 68000

    MACDRIVE

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2006
    Location:
    Clovis, California
    #10
    Well I'll tell you what... I'm not religious, but I do have a soul. ;)

    And when the day comes that my heart stops beating or I get vaporized by a WMD, I'm leaving that tired old cumbersome body behind and I'm gonna fly. :p
     
  11. Glen Quagmire macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Location:
    UK
    #11
    Well said.
     
  12. solvs macrumors 603

    solvs

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Location:
    LaLaLand, CA
    #12
    A soul is just living energy, and if they were alive and conscious, then yes they would. It wouldn't be the same soul though, just like twins have different souls. As do progeny when you reproduce. It's a whole 'nother person.

    Cloning is probably a bad idea for obvious reasons, but also probably an inevitability.
     
  13. meepm00pmeep thread starter macrumors 6502

    meepm00pmeep

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    #13
    i would say that in a hundred years a sadistic ruler of goverment will want to wipe out everyone and try to create a perfect race (like, Hitler) and with cloning a reality... *shivers*
     
  14. zap2 macrumors 604

    zap2

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Location:
    Washington D.C
    #14
    This would come back to what a Soul is....are you saying your soul is who you are..IE if we cloned Hitler he would come back as a racist? I doubt it, you a product of your environment, something happen to Hitler to fill him with hate.


    However if we keep the current people in Office in the US, we will never find out in the US, as they will say its a sin!
     
  15. plinden macrumors 68040

    plinden

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2004
    #15
    Clones? What clones would these be then?

    Reality? Whose reality would this be then?
     
  16. meepm00pmeep thread starter macrumors 6502

    meepm00pmeep

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    #16
    well, say some sadistic government decides to try to create the perfect human through DNA and then clone them.. i mean, cloning is happening behind your eyes as we speak, whether or not it's legal or not, it's happening right now and we won't know for many years because they can't at the moment speed up the aging process, but in many years from now there will be cloned humans walking amounst us whether we'll know it or not
     
  17. KingYaba macrumors 68040

    KingYaba

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2005
    Location:
    Up the irons
    #17
    We'll see cloning through livestock first. We already do artificial insemination and stuff like that. Pretty soon that perfect heffer will come along...
     
  18. zwida macrumors 6502a

    zwida

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2001
    Location:
    NYC
    #18
    Let's just hope it's delicious.:)
     
  19. KingYaba macrumors 68040

    KingYaba

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2005
    Location:
    Up the irons
    #19
    But wait, all that methane from the cow's ass will cause global warming won't it?
     
  20. zap2 macrumors 604

    zap2

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Location:
    Washington D.C
    #20

    Was that a statement saying Clone is bad, or Global warming is not our fault?

    or both?
     
  21. srf4real macrumors 68030

    srf4real

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2006
    Location:
    paradise beach FL
    #22
    Life is a spiritual existence in a physical illusion. Souls are what we do with it.
    anything that has life, yes, has a soul.:cool:
     
  22. hulugu macrumors 68000

    hulugu

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2003
    Location:
    the faraway towns
    #23

    It's the reincarnation problem. Say 5,000 years ago, there were less than a million people. Now there are 6 Billion. Are we each just a small part of those original souls? Or are new souls created? And if new souls are created, why wouldn't clones get their own, they are concious individuals who rather than containing chromosomes from a mother and father merely have the same chromosomes.
     
  23. meepm00pmeep thread starter macrumors 6502

    meepm00pmeep

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    #24
    awesome point there, but there's the difference... from getting a mixture of chromosones from a mother & father it would create a unique individual, whereas if the individual was created using the exact chromosones, it wouldn't be unique but a carbon copy of itself
     
  24. plinden macrumors 68040

    plinden

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2004
    #25
    Nothing's happening behind my eyes apart from wishing it was lunch time.

    You do realise, the alumin(i)um foil hats actually amplify the radio signals at government used frequencies? - http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

    Edit:
    Here's a question for you: Do identical twins have one or two souls?
     

Share This Page