As far as I'm aware (and i could be wrong) USB 1.1 runs at a maximum of 12Mbits/second whereas USB 2.0 is a maximum of 480Mbits/second. You may find using USB 1.1 painfully slow, it depends how often you want to change all the songs on your Nano.
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iPod Confirmation of Nano Firewire-less-ness from ThinkSecret
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It's needs to be supported by the hardware inside the device and although you may be able to get dual FW/USB bridges (Maybe, I dunno?) they probably cost more and to be honest it's only mac owners with macs over 2 years old that haven't got USB2. I know it sucks but Apple sells more ipods to windows users than mac users and PCs have had USB2 for ages.DeSnousa said:
If you have a powermac G4 you can get a PCI card to add USB2 (certain chipsets only - NEC IIRC) to your mac. I have one in mine. Doesn't help much if you have something that doesn't have PCI slots...
Apple dragged it's feet introducing USB2 to macs...
You might be able to get a PCMCIA card that would fit in the PCCard slot. You'd need to check compatibility though.
A USB2 hub doesn't make your USB1 computer have a USB2 connection. It only relays what it's given so a USB2 hub on a USB1 only machine is a USB1 hub.
gwuMACaddict said:
Plugging a powered USB hub into a USB1.1 port is going to give you, wait for it, USB1.1 speeds. The person you are responding to is talking about the lack of USB2 ports on all but the newest Macs.
However, as I have stated before, and someone alluded to just a few post before yours, it's only 2 or 4 gb. The actual sustained data rate for USB1.1 is at least 1 megaBYTE per second, generally closer to 1.5. Your first sync is going to take about 45-60 minutes, but after that I am assuming that most people are not swapping the entire library out of the iPod, but exchanging a few songs here or there. Say 1gb at most for subsequent syncs. That's only 10-15 minutes, and not all that bad.
Would have rather seen FW, but I suppose the USB only connection keeps costs down and lets them sell to the broadest market, which also keeps costs down.
mrgreen4242 said:
I wouldn't be so sure.. the 'classic' iPods can carry most or all of most peoples' music collections, so people will probably just make incremental updates to them.
But since the mini & particularly shuffles and nanos are smaller, people can only hold some of their music, and thus are likely to change it more often.
So if you only have usb 1.0, like i do, even if your willing to put up with slow transfer rates, you still have to buy something extra to charge up the device?
So that means, if i bough this, I bought just the box, i would have no way to actually charge the batteries?
So that means, if i bough this, I bought just the box, i would have no way to actually charge the batteries?
No - I think you would be able to charge it through the USB 1.1 as long as it is a high-powered USB port. I actually forked over my old G4 tower to my mother for the sole purpose of charging her shuffle, since her Dell came with like ten USB ports of which zero were high-powered.
davidwes said:
The things that come in the box are:
So yes, as Clay said, separately; you can also charge it via the bus or via a USB or firewire AC adapter from a larger iPod, should you already own one such.
Perhaps. But that's why I'm only willing to bet a donut and not something more valuable, such as a BOX of donuts.ham_man said:
whooleytoo said:
According to Apple, 4gb = ~4000 minutes of music = 66.6 hours. Do you think that people are going to be swapping out 66+ hours of audio media on a regular basis?
As an iPod mini user (4gb) with somewhere between 11 and 18 gbs of audio media (I have a lot of audio books on DVD-R, I've never totaled it all up... 15gb would be a safe bet) I can say I swap MAYBE 500mb a day. Probably less. My music moods, tastes and collection doesn't change all at once. It's gradual, and so are the updates. I see the same pattern on all the people with music collections bigger than their iPods, and I am willing to bet that it's fairly typical.
davidwes said:
If you don't already own a charging brick and don't purchase one, then the only way you can charge it is through the USB port. It should charge through USB1.1 or 2.0, as long as the port is providing sufficient power. It may not work well through un-powered hubs, though, or the passthrough USB port on a keyboard, for instance. It should charge fine if you plug it directly into the USB port on a computer.