Connecting an outdoor speaker to my Apple TV

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  1. Branchapmana, Jan 28, 2011
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    How easy is it to connect an outdoor speaker to my apple tv ? I'm wanting to be able to listen to my music whilst outside my back garden. My apple tv is situated in my living room. What equipment would I need ?
     
  2. Gee, Feb 1, 2011
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    A really long digital optical cable that reaches to your garden, or more practically an Airport Express and a power cable extension so you can stream music via Airplay
     
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    Depending on the distance from your house and quality of sound you want, you could just get a wireless speaker like this one and control the Apple TV or iTunes with the Apple iPhone/iPad Remote app.
     
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    I have speakers on my deck that I run airplay music to via my living room A/V receiver's second zone and an airport express. The apple TV wont work in my situation because I need analog inputs to the second zone and the ATV only has digital output.

    So to use the apple tv you will need a receiver/amplifier to take the digital signal and convert to amplified speaker output, and a set of outdoor speakers. You would need to run outdoor rated speaker wire from the receiver/amp to the speakers.
     
  5. macrumors regular

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    I have an electrical outlet in the BBQ island next to my back yard. In a waterproof box in the island I have an airport express to which I wirelessly stream music from my iMac or my AppleTV libraries inside the house. The airport express is connected to a marine amplifier (basically, a waterproof stereo amp designed for boats). The marine amplifier is connected to outdoor rock shaped speakers with speaker wires which are buried in the dirt.

    For music, all you need to do is switch on the marine amp. With the iPhone you can select the music source, speaker output, and volume.

    This equipment has been outside for two and a half years now and still works like a charm.
     
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    I have outdoor speakers on my deck. Inside the house I have a cheap stereo amplifier with the speaker wires running thru a small hole in the house to the speakers. Connected to the cheap stereo amplifier is an Airport Express.

    You can get a current generation refurbed Airport express for 69.99 thru the apple store (check periodically because they go in and out of stock). In the house, I also have my two appletv's hooked to my two home theater receivers so I can plan the same song all thru out the house using my ipad to control it all.
     
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    Pulling up an old thread. I am interested in this as well. I have HDMI going to my receiver so all sound goes through my home theater system. If I want to have music outside as well (can you run optical and HDMI audio at the same time?) can I run optical out from Apple TV to an optical to RCA converter and then plug that red/white RCA analog wires into the wireless transmitter for the speakers you linked to

    http://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Rese...112&sr=1-5&keywords=wireless+outdoor+speakers
     
  8. HobeSoundDarryl, Sep 15, 2014
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    Yes. I have my "zone 2" set up exactly that way: :apple:TV optical out to optical-to-RCA converter, RCA (analog) audio into "zone 2" input on receiver, receiver via speaker wires to outside stereo speakers (but this could be receiver to wireless transmitter as well). :apple:TV can output both HDMI and optical at the same time, so each can be used as needed.

    OP, you are getting many variations of answers to your question because you haven't shared enough detail. Some people are trying to help you do it as cheaply as possible. They're thinking about wireless vs. wired because they don't know if you have any speaker wire already run out there, nor do they know if you are interested in running any wire. Do you want stereo out there or mono? Is it a big patio needing bigger speakers or small? Will these speakers get rained on or will they be under a ledge? Do you have a receiver/amplifier or will you need one? Are you chasing high quality or cheapest price? Etc.

    Basically, you probably have a free audio out port on your :apple:TV: the optical port. You could feed that into the optical in on an amplifier or receiver and then run speaker wire out to these patio speaker from the amp/receiver. If you have a home theater, you may have what is called "Zone 2" inputs on your receiver. If so, those usually need analog audio in so you may need to convert that optical to analog. There's many optical to analog converters on sites like Amazon for about $20-$30.

    From there, it's a matter of deciding if you want wireless speakers or wired. If the former, you probably need a power source on the patio so whatever you already have out there will probably influence placement. If wired, you probably need to run some speaker wire up or down the inside wall, across the ceiling or basement and out at the patio locations where you want the speakers. This may be easy or difficult depending on the build of your house, weather you have sufficient space in the walls, attic or basement to route such cable, etc. If your :apple:TV is right by an outside wall and you can't fish speaker wire through your wall, you might poke a hole through to the outside and then run the wire to reach the speakers on the outside wall (this won't look as good but it's done). Generally, you will need to get a wire to the speakers- either a wire routing the audio or power if you go the wireless speaker route (unless you try to make batteries work for a true wireless option) or speaker wire if you don't go the wireless route.

    If quality is more important than cheapest price, I'd suggest the wired route. It's more trouble to set up once but then it's a solid, long-term solution. If price is most important, there are many good options including buying a stand alone, battery-based bluetooth speaker and routing audio to it from an iPhone, iPad, or iPod (leaving the :apple:TV out of the equation). Not only would this be a cheap and easy way to get audio on your patio but its portability would make it easy to move it anywhere else (someone else's patio, your garage, your driveway, the yard, the beach, etc).
     
  9. macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the reply. My a/v receiver only has A/B speaker set, no zone 2. Originally I tried hooking up a speaker to run outside to the "B" set, but when I had both A (inside home theater speakers) and B (outside speaker) on, I could barely even hear set B outside. I am thinking that if I just go straight from Apple TV optical out to the wireless transmitter for a portable wireless outside speaker via an RCA converter that I should be able to hear it since it is going straight from Apple TV (and not through my a/v receiver).
     
  10. HobeSoundDarryl, Sep 15, 2014
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    Probably, but the speakers need amplification (power). So if your receiver is not sending that power, then the equipment at the other end of that wireless "send" will need power (amplification).

    It sounds like your receiver has an issue unless it's just not made to power both "A" & "B" at the same time. You might have a switcher device rather than something with enough power to drive both at the same time. If you can scratch up a few hundred, there are some exceptional receivers out there that will give you powered zone 2.
     
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  12. HobeSoundDarryl, Sep 15, 2014
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    I'm pretty confident that if you try to go the wireless route, you must have the amplification at or near the speakers. In other words, they'll need to be plugged in (or one of them will need to be plugged in and a wire run to the other one (through which the amplified power can be sent). I think you are thinking you can amp them first and then send the amped signals wirelessly but that's not how it works (best I know). I doubt you can find any pair of wireless speakers that won't require either a socket(s) to plug into power or batteries (or maybe solar). The point is that amplified speakers need power. And I don't think amplified power can then be wirelessly transmitted to patio speakers. Instead, I think the wireless speakers received an un-amplified signal that they then amplify within each speaker or within a master speaker with the other tethered via a wire.
     
  13. macrumors newbie

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    I see okay. I'll have to see if I have an extra RCA audio out on my receiver that I can use and just run the optical from Apple TV to my receiver and then out to the wireless transmitter like you originally posted about. Thanks for all the help.
     

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