Critique my site please.

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  1. sepu macrumors regular

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    Hey guys well ...
    I've been working on this forever ! for real ..... Im never happy with it ...

    But anyways .... Just to let you know there are some stuff that arent upload yet ... in the about section I need to upload the XML and in my portfolio I just upload some of it to see if it was working.

    Anyway let me know what you think.

    Thanks

    http://www.hsdesign.org/
     
  2. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    It's a really nice concept and elegant implementation. :) Good work!

    I would suggest though, that, if possible, you make it so that the big background block that comes out of the Rubik's Cube to show the actual content doesn't overlap the quick navigation bar at the top. On most of the pages / squares of the cube, it was not visible for me.
     
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    Yeah, I would suggest not stifling navigation for design effects.

    HAHA! I just noticed that you are in my hometown of Carlisle, PA! Awesome, man.
     
  5. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hey guys thank ...
    Yeah I notice that ... I have to change that ... that isnt suppose to happend though if you have more than 1024 x 768 .....
    but its happening anyway .. I'll fix that thanks ..

    hahah Carlisle Im not from here originally... I live here for now .. because Im working in Harrisburg ... Carlisle is to quite for me though. Still nice small town.
     
  6. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    Nice actionscripting, but like 99% of all flash websites, I got bored really fast because I have to wait 5-10 seconds going from page to page because of pointless transition animations. If anything, speed them up so that the time between pages is 3 seconds tops. People want things fast on the net and purposely slowing them down for the sake of having a transition is a bad thing.
     
  7. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    hey radiantm3 is it too slow when you use the quick navigation ????
    You think that I should make the animation faster than that or maybe none?

    about the speed I have Cable so it loads pretty fast for me pretty much in everything I also tried in DSL and it also its pretty quick. so hopefully when first load isnt that slow.


    thanks.
     
  8. Quboid macrumors 6502

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    That site is pretty good. I like!!
    Did you learn all that flash on your own?:eek:
     
  9. radiantm3 macrumors 65816

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    Load time isn't slow at all. I'm on a 12mb down cable connection. It's the transition animations that bother me. They are definitely fine by me from a visual standpoint, just too slow. The quick nav is slightly faster, but the speed that the next pages draws out is still too slow for some people's patience. :)
     
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  11. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    hey Quboid yeah I've been working with Flash since version MX and little flash 5 didnt touch it too much though .... although not eveything on there is Flash the Cube is a 3D animation made in Maya.

    radiantm3 I will take into consideration.
    I might change that for some other kind I'll try stuff. I know what you mean with being patience :rolleyes:

    I will do CSS version as well. Thanks .
     
  12. BilltheCat macrumors regular

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    I just looked at it from work on a PC with 17" monitor.
    It worked fine and is actually very nice work. The only thing I wished for is more content.

    But that will come I am sure!

    Great work!:apple:
     
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  14. aussieNickuss macrumors newbie

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    Looks great on my 15" iBook. I agree about the time it takes for animation transition from page to page. Also....the rubiks cube is "mystery meat" navigation....you have to hover over to know what it is. I know you have the navbar at the top....but it took me a while to notice it.

    Other than that I think its great. :)
     
  15. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    To be honest, I didn't even browse though it. I opened it up, noticed it was flash, and then closed that sucker as fast as I could. I can't be bothered with a flash site. Sorry to say, but a lot of web users feel the same way.
     
  16. srf4real macrumors 68030

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    I enjoyed my visit. I was a little sad that there was no music.:)
     
  17. Wild-Bill macrumors 68030

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    I usually feel the same way about Flash sites. But to be honest, I felt the Flash was unobtrusive. I liked the site a lot. Great job!
     
  18. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    thank you guys for the comments.


    grapes911 - well that its up to you. Flash can be used in many forms and its great for interactivity and also all that "I hate Flash" I really dont understand that, its just another medium and if you know how to use and use it right you can do pretty neat stuff, etc. if you dont like I respect it. No problem I will have my CSS version as well so whenever its ready you can visit that one.


    About the content yeah I have to add more. I just need to finish up some details.

    I will address the transition time. I'll think in something else any ideas ?

    Music MmMm Im kind of doubting that. Im not sure if I should or not.

    tominated - ? didnt get your msg
     
  19. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    I guess my comments weren't very constructive. I'll elaborate.

    Here are my “Flash Annoyances” (I am not saying to did any of these, I’m speaking more general). While these are not inherent to flash itself, they are common in flash sites and led to the poor stigma of flash.

    1. Flash makes bad design more likely.
    a. Flash sites are generally more concerned with looking good than having quality info. Flash intros and unnecessary transitions delay the user’s ability to get what they come for – content.
    b. Flash sites have this theory that ‘If we can make something move, then why not do it?’ They never stop and ask ‘What gain does the user get out of that movement?’
    c. Some flash sites make you wait a couple of extra seconds to watch redundant animations/transitions every time you click a link.
    d. Flash pages are more likely to have sound. It’s just annoying.
    e. Flash sites look more like a PowerPoint presentation than a website.
    f. Many times designers create two versions of the same site. If you really need two versions, then the designer probably did something wrong or made a wrong choice. Why not integrate the two in to one kick ass site?

    2. Flash doesn’t conform to web standards.
    a. The back and forward buttons. They just don’t work well (although Flash MX has made them some what useful). If a user is browsing a Flash site and then hits the back button and it leaves the entire flash site, there is a chance they won’t come back. No one wants to sort though the pages again.
    b. Flash developers sometimes create their own nonstandard GUI styles/controls. A user is used to how things look and work. Keep it that way so they don’t get frustrated and leave.
    c. Search engines have trouble with flash. We live in a Google driven world. If users cannot easily find the site in at least one of the more popular search engines, then it might as well not exist.
    d. The browser’s find/search tool doesn’t usually work.
    e. The browser can’t overwrite fonts and sizes. This is terrible for people with poor vision or disabilities.

    3. Flash requires too many resources.
    a. Flash typically requires more bandwidth than an HTML site. Many people are still on dialup. The longer the page takes to load, the more people will tend to close the page before they even see it.
    b. The resources used for the site could be better used to enhance the content.
    c. Many times you can start using an HTML page even if it isn’t finished downloading. This is rare with a flash site.

    Before developing something in flash, stop and ask yourself, ‘is this the most effective way to do this or will HTML work?’ HTML is more user friendly. That being said, I love when flash is integrated into a page much like a image. It can be extremely powerful this way.

    Please don't take any of this personally. I'm just offering my opinions and experience with website development.
     
  20. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    Im dont take any of these personally however now tell me what of all this that you say applies to my design.

    1. is my site a very bad looking site? if so tell me where I can improve if you say so. And that usually Flash site are bad design, not even close my friend. I can show many studios that are pretty good.

    2. Do you see a Flash Intro in my site? What do you mean with quality info? mine doesnt have that?

    3. that isnt the true. You think that I thought ok I want movement in my site let make it Flash. No its all about interactivity.

    4.Not all the time. And that was one of the reason that Im going to change my Quick navigation.

    5.That is why I dont have sound.

    6. Sorry but that its just funny "power point". I dont think so.

    7. There is nothing wrong with the code. Is what you said one its for dial-up people and the other is who wants a different experience.

    8. There is way for back buttons in Flash.

    9.This applies to my site.

    10. You can hide HTML links when you embed you flash movie. But isn't as HTML. Still works

    11. Here is where you decide what is your target audience.

    12. Use more bandwidth than HTML true, but if you know how to use Flash you can try to minimize that.

    "Before developing something in flash, stop and ask yourself, ‘is this the most effective way to do this or will HTML work?’ HTML is more user friendly"

    I know what you mean and I sit down and I plan before I created my site. I just didnt come and said "I want to make my site in flash because its cool or because it makes movement".

    There are a lot of true in what you mention here however as I've said many time if you know how to use and when I dont see why not.
    You just the best of both world.
     
  21. beefwellington macrumors newbie

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    Sepu,
    I like the site. Being a designer (graphic), I like the clean look and nice use of color too. I agree that the transitions could be streamlined a bit, but they didnt bother me too much. You have to keep in mind that someone might be checking out your site along with 50 others, so anything to slow them down won't help you.

    As for the Flash/no-Flash subtopic. You really cant generalize here. Many designers overuse flash, use too many animations, sounds, and doo-dads. Some of the most amazing and innovative content I have seen was devloped in flash. And sometimes the point of a website isn't always ease of use. It is the brilliant design and interaction. Surely many commercial sites require everything be very straight forward, and dumb it down for the lowest common denominator. I love to find a site that makes me explore and has an interesting twist on interactivity.

    That's my 2 cents. Keep it up Sepu.
     
  22. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    hey beefwellington
    Thanks for your comments ....
    yeah I'm totally agree with what you said about Flash site .... there's a lot of people who overuse it and just put everything that they can find in site, etc ....

    its all about how and when to use my thing was its just another tool and you can make very cool stuff and can complement your design as well, like hybrid site (HTML, Flash, CSS) etc.
     
  23. enda1 macrumors member

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    hang on. You do have sound! There is a clicky noise when clicking a link or even hovering over the cube. Very annoying in my opinion. I and i'm sure many people listen to music while browsing, (Stephen malkmus at the moment by the way!!).

    So loose the sounds! Nice site though.

    Just noticed. A load of stuff aint working for me. It asks me to contact you. How appropriate! Its in the who am i area etc.
     
  24. sepu thread starter macrumors regular

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    yes I have those sounds on my btns ... I like them though ..... Thanks for your comments.
    About the who Am I area..... I haven't upload the XML that is why you are getting that error, its just an error that I through there in case the XML doesn't load and since isn't there yet ...

    Thanks
     
  25. Les Kern macrumors 68040

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    I do as well... as for the "flash" comments above, I think they should be "reserved" for design businesses. :)
    The site looks fantastic, and the modest changes suggested are optional.
     

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