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Cutty Sark burns down

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Blue Velvet, May 20, 2007.

  1. Moderator emeritus

    This is a bit sad, especially to those who have visited or live in London. A piece of naval history, up in smoke... always prominent in the TV coverage of the London marathon and a real landmark down in Greenwich.



  2. macrumors 65816


    You managed to post while I was typing -- I've pointed people to this thread, just 'cos your posts all nicer with the words n' all :)

    Quite sad really. However, some of the people on-site seem to be (relatively) optimistic. About 50% of the ship had been taken away during the current renovations, so hopefully much of it is safe. There had been reports that you could see 'right through' the ship, which sounded pretty bad. However, I've just heard that was due to the renovations -- so really quite a lot must've been removed from the hull's exterior.

    Fingers crossed, we have plenty of skilled people able to restore the ship in as authentic a way as possible.
  3. macrumors G3

    Yup, I think it'd been stripped back to it's basic timber and iron frame, with the exception of the forecastle and bow which look in reasonably complete judging by Skycopter.

    As I understand it, it was due to be completed by the end of 2008/start of 2009, I wonder if they'll set themselves a new target completion date for 2012?
  4. macrumors G4

    The masts and decks themselves had been removed for the renovation. They will have catalogued every plank in what was left so it will be possible to reconstruct what's gone if they want to. Won't be the same though will it :(

    Would it be a better idea just to board that Swedish galleon currently moored near HMS Belfast and "purloin" it in the spirit of Sir Francis Drake for a replacement?

  5. macrumors 65816


    That's good to hear, although you're right about it not quite being the same. I hope there's some artisans out there who've kept old shipbuilding and woodworking practices alive and can rebuild it in as authentic a manner as possible.

    Excellent idea!

  6. macrumors G4

    The team that work on HMS Victory will be their best hope I would have thought, although that ship is even more precious now :(

    If this was arson, I want them to bring back the stocks. Anyone who would deliberately destroy such an amazing piece of history needs public humiliation and a damn good birching before rotting in prison.

    I hope it's not though. I'd prefer to think nobody could be that sick.
  7. macrumors Core

    Jaffa Cake

    Indeed – while they'll be able to use a fair bit of the original materials, quite a lot is going to have to be replaced. How much of the original needs to be left on the ship before it's considered a replica?

    It's sad news – I quite like old ships. I find it incredible that anyone would want to start a fire like this deliberately. :(
  8. macrumors 68030


    Little punks in Greenwich would be capable of anything.
  9. macrumors G4

    Those in the know are now saying there is a good chance the ship can be restored, thanks to the masts, rigging, sails, figurehead, decks and numerous artifacts having been moved to Chatham dockyard for the duration of the refurb.

    I certainly hope so. Police are going through CCTV footage as there were several people around just before the fire started.

    Pictures of the remains:-


  10. macrumors Penryn


    Yeah, seriously. What would someone have against the Cutty Sark? Ridiculous. What's the point? My first reaction was "probably a chav", but a chav? It's got to be someone a lot dumber than that. Besides, this type of vandalism sound very chav-vy.
  11. macrumors G3

    Probably a property developer. ;)
  12. macrumors 65816


    Chatham?! Not exactly a quiet haven free from yobbery and arson :D
  13. macrumors G4

    The basis of the word Chav apparently :eek:
  14. macrumors 6502

    I read somewhere that the term 'chav' is apparently derived from a nautical term, used to greet a crew mate or fellow sailor/boatman on the River Medway - as in "How are you, my old chavvy?"

    I don't know how true that is though!
  15. macrumors Core

    Jaffa Cake

    I had heard it was derived from a gypsy term for a cheeky youngster, or something.

    If they find a scorched burberry cap at the scene of the crime then we've got our culprits.
  16. macrumors 6502

    *spews half-chewed M&M's all over monitor*
  17. macrumors 604


    Obviously, a work of foreign sabotage against Her Majesty's Fleet.

    Though, I hear someone out there is building an "Iron Clad"...

  18. macrumors regular


    Such a saddening situation. Another one of the treasures of history has been wiped from the earth by a waste of organs and skin. This type of thing really grips my sh*t. :mad:
  19. macrumors G3


    I head there's a ship where the cannonballs just bounce off! :eek:

    When I saw the title, I thought it had something to do with the Scotch. :eek:
  20. macrumors 6502

    What is it in England with chavs and burberry?
    In the US Burberry is for the very affluent and well to do.
    RL and Tommy are for the youngsters.
  21. macrumors 6502a


    138 years ago when they laid the keel I wonder if they could have imagined the ship would travel world successfully only to be damaged by a fire while being restored. To bad although it sounds like they will restore it.
  22. macrumors Core

    Jaffa Cake

    They feel that a splash of fake burberry adds a touch of elegance and sophistication – a burberry scarf is great for hiding your face while engaging in acts of vandalism and petty crime. Apparently.
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    Very sad :( Mostly because it's hard to believe somebody would waste time and effort destroying a piece of history.
  24. macrumors 6502

    Sad. I have a model of it that I built several years ago.
  25. macrumors Penryn


    I think chavs like stripes, because they also like Adidas trousers and hats.

    Burberry is to a chav what Tommy is to white suburban American kids and "wiggers". I don't know why either brand became so popular with such people, but there you go.

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