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David Letterman features new 5G iPod on Late Show

Discussion in 'MacBytes.com News Discussion' started by MacBytes, Oct 12, 2005.

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    When we're talking about CPUs, we call them "generation three" (G3), "generation four" (G4) and "generation five" (G5). Yet for some reason when talking about iPods, people swap them around :rolleyes:

    It gets even more confusing when people leave off the "B" for "byte" when referring to the original 5 GB iPod - it's often truncated to 5G.

    Is it just me, or do other people find this weird too? :confused:
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    Yes Nermal that is odd, what's also odd is selling 4 gig players that actually only have 3.7 gigs avaliable. You'd think they could throw an extra 50 mb in there to "top 'er off."

    What's even odder is the SQL error on the page related to this story, must have been blasted with clicks. Would have been nice to see a clip...I have TiVo & it's only 10:30 pm here, but I'm too lazy. :rolleyes:
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    mb= millbits, or no such thing. It's MB. :D

    Anyway, I thought that he was stupid but then, isn't that his way. "All Songs Simultaneously" was his new feature...ugggh. They played a bunch of pieces that you would know with some overlay and they apparently created an mp3 file that was uploaded to be shown on it.

    By the way, the local news and ABC news both featured the new iPod.
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    You'd expect ABC to :p
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    Good spotting! ;) :cool:
    Talking of local news, the new Video iPod actually had big news coverage on TV3 (NZ) in the main section tonight when I got home and I think it got coverage on TVNZ (TV1) aswell judging by its placement on TVNZ's website tonight
    seen at the bottom left and the link to the main article

    Considering it is little ol NZ and Apple that is pretty impressive :cool:
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    The iPod OS and file system overhead has to go somewhere...and having a third chip would just drive up costs and take up space. For all intents and purposes, it does have a full 4GB of capacity, it's just that some of that isn't yours to use. Computers have always been the same way (OS X takes up space on a 74GB, I mean "80 GB" formatted drive, leaving you with about 61 free as I recall).
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    Well, they'd run several reports on the iPod as it's come along with the iTunes Music Store. They didn't even mention that there were episodes to be bought, only that it would play video.

    The local channel didn't even mention that it would play video. Of course, they also spelt it I-POD but Orlando doesn't have the greatest minds. The female anchor person went on a little while afterwards as if she wants the thing. She was quite enthusiastic.
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    Actually, it's the difference between how storage companies and computer companies measure space.

    In fact, it's because some people started to refer to a "kilobyte" when then meant "1024 bytes" (and not "1000 bytes"). It was "close enough" at the time, but when you multiply for KB, MB, GB, it makes a huge difference.

    There is a "fix" in progress: new suffixes. They're KiB, MiB, GiB, etc. Kibibyte, Mebibyte, Gibibyte. It sounds weird if you've never heard them before, but I'm not making this up.

    That's why your "80GB" hard drive is only showing up as "74GB" on a computer (even without the OS and/or filesystem taken into account).
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    Also, there have always been two ways to measure capacity--in thousands or in chunks of 1024. Drive manufacturers always use the one that makes them look best, and device makers follow suit. The first company to deviate from that would actually look BAD in consumer's eyes: they'd seem to have less capacity! It would be like a company selling CRTs by the actual viewable inches: their 17" might be the same as everyone else's 19", but it would sound bad on paper and not sell.
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    Some space is also taken up by the formatting of the disk I believe.

    EDIT: I suppose thats probably what you meant by "filesystem". :rolleyes:
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    True, but just about everyone already knows that. What people neglect is that that disk, which is only 74GB (or GiB, if you prefer), is not empty when you get it, either. This is especially important with the case of the iPod, where the capacity difference is more drastic than the binary/decimal byte difference. That is, a nano, based on the binary/decimal problem, would still have a total capacity of 3.91 GB. The argument, then, is where did the other 200MB go?

    Filesystem and OS.
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    Maybe Dave Letterman can register and post a review here-

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