David Lynch's new movie shot in DV

Discussion in 'Digital Video' started by Blue Velvet, May 15, 2005.

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    It's subject matter is... surprise, surprise.


    Working title is "INLAND EMPIRE" (his caps), he goes on to say...


    As for the quality of the DV image, Lynch says,


    To me, this comes as surprise considering the lengths he's gone to in the past to get his pictures just so... although maybe not to a Kubrickian level of perfection.

    Anyways, a little more over at:
    http://www.lynchnet.com/

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    Hmmm... hopefully it's not some self-indulgent piece of crap.


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    That guy's still alive? Thought he must have buried himself by now...




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    Still around to pick up nominations from the Academy and best director awards at Cannes.
     
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    I'm a big fan of David Lynch. I think he makes beautiful movies that are a journey of abstraction & multiple story lines, rather than a movie that travels from point a to point b and finishes on c. I think the problem people have with his movies is they sit and analyze and try to make sense of it all when David Lynch is not giving you all the facts, this is of course intentional. The nature of the brain is to find order, his movies tickle the brain whilst transporting you to a different reality; I enjoy them immensely.

    I found the point about moving DV back to film very interesting to get that 'film effect'.
     
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    Still winning at Cannes? Hmm... well, well.
    I loved Eraserhead. I loved Twin Peaks (the TV series). I enjoyed Blue Velvet (not you).

    However, I disliked The Straight Story and I more than disliked Mulholland Drive.

    So, naturally, I thought he was getting worse and worse, and would soon dig himself into a hole.

    This new one should give me a clear idea if he has done just that.



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    When I first saw Mulholland Drive in the cinema, I was extremely disappointed, although that was eased knowing a little about the troubled route from production to final cut.

    Seeing it a few more times on DVD recently had persuaded me that it is far better than I gave it credit for unlike Lost Highway.

    Anyway, not intending to debate the films of David Lynch per se. Just found it interesting that a director who's worked with Freddie Francis is now prepared to work with DV for cinematic releases.
     
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    Not too big on whoever this guy is, but I think that shooting in DV is great for everyone involved. It allows for innovative and creative uses of video. In fact, this evening I just saw a piece on the news about Richard Linklaters new movie "A Scanner Darkly". It is like an animated movie, where the animation is put on afterwards. The whole film is filmed, then using some program lines and colors are made to make the movie look like it was animated. Also, they are doing this all on G5s... :rolleyes:
     
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    I liked both Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive along with The Straight Story. I feel that most people don't like to think when they watch film and therefore dismiss Lynch's work. This man will be regarded as THE genius of our time, trust me. Guys-Lynch takes patience and perseverence, all the films make sense and once you get them, they're amazing and rewarding.
     
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    With my 'tar, I'm certainly not disputing that. Every genius has an off-day, though... :)
     
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    I'm surprised he hasn't got round to employing DV before. Films such as 'Session 9' (shot on Sony's 24p HD) proved that you can capture film/Kubrick rivalling atmospheric vista's digitally.
     
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    Yes- like Wild at Heart. That was an absolute mess.
     
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    I love it. Rambling, stupid, insane but I still love it.
     
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    I've really tried to like it. I just don't. And we both agree it's rambling and stupid. :)
     
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    As much as I agree with you on the second part, I have to cconfess to liking Straight Story. There are not enough films written about septuagenarians taking coming-of-longer-age road trips on lawnmowers ... Lynch saw the niche ... score! No really, I did enjoy it.
     
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    Even a poor Lynch movie is more thought-provoking, entertaining, mysterious and conversation-worthy than 99% of the schlock that passes across our cinema screens.
     
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    That's so true. Most everything is rehash and dull. Do you go to many film festivals? Those are usually the best places to see good work.
     
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    woah, stop right there, cowboy. :p

    H-U-G-E difference between DV and HD.

    From what it sounds like Lynch is running around w/a standard def, $4-$5000 prosumer camera. Not a $100,000 CineAlta (Sony's HDCAM camera).

    Hopefully Lynch's DV movie will yield better results than those of other established directors who experimented w/DV in the past.

    IMO "Session 9" was flat and too bright. It felt very un-scary to me. Although I think most of that were user issues and not camera issues.


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    So is he editing on a Mac?
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    I'm very much aware of that thanks ;) :p

    I don't know much about Lynch and I don't care much for his movies so I've no idea if previously he was something of a film traditionalist. My point was that is that I'm surprised he's only just beginning to consider the use of digital formats in the filming process (whether it be DV or HD).

    I don't think they were going for the scary look though, it's a massively atmospheric film, with some incredible sweeping and tracking shots (very Kubrick infact) most of which were naturally lit (a trick that would've been difficult to pull of with conventional film).
     
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    Given his fondness for 2.35:1, what formats would support that?
     
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    Scary might have been the wrong word. When I watched it (and this was probably 2-3 years ago) I never felt like the visuals complemented the story. It felt too open, and light, and safe. Sense you brought up Kubrick, there were ways that the hotel in "The Shining" were shot that were subtley unnerving. It might just be a shot of a big, empty normal looking room but the way it was done was unsettling. I never got the same feeling w/ "Session 9."

    From what I've heard I think if you shoot in 16:9 mode on a 4:3 camera and have an anamorphic adapter on it you can get around 2.35:1 but I don't know how good the image quality would be.

    I'd assume he's just using an anamorphic adapter on a 4:3 DV camera and that would make it 1.85:1.


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    Can someone explain Mulholland Drive in a nutshell, because I saw that film last year and by the end, I couldn't stop blinking and thinking of lesbians.
     
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    Wasn't the Mann film "Collateral" shot on DV? (be it high-def DV)
    That's what he goes on about in the commentary track, because there was very little lighting used, and only video would pick up the required definition.
     
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    Okay, not to pick nits but DV does not refer to HD and there is no such thing as "high-def DV." "DV" (capital "D" capital "V") is a specific video format, it's not a generic term. "Digital video" is a generic term. "DV" is not. And MiniDV is DV format video, but just on a smaller sized tape (hence the "mini" part).


    Most of the movie was shot on HD because it provided the look Mann wanted.


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