Well this morning my wife wakes me up an tells me that safari isn't working. I go hun? How does safari not work, its just a web browser. I go look, and indeed safari would not open. So I tell her to restart the computer and this is where things head south. It got to the screen with the apple logo and just stayed there. I'm telling my self this is no good. I have been a victim of the ibook logic board and now a dead iMac? I just got done convincing my wife about how great mac are, and now her computer dies. Well anyways. I do the apple-v start up and it goes until after it mounts the root partition, (where the kernal loads) and just stops. So I run the hardware tests, remove the extra ram, unplug her tablet, repair the disk, repair permissions, zap the PRAM. Nothing works, still just sits there trying to load the kernal. So as a last ditch effort I fire up the restore disk, and did an install with keeping existing users. Everything work just fine, but safari still didn't work! I did all the updates, 10.3.1->10.3.3 and downloaded safari. And now everything is fine, but I am wondering what in good gods name happend. Macs are not supposed to do this. (I have never had something like this happen before). Any one else ever see this?