Got a silver 2gb second gen used on ebay 15.99 with free shipping. Looks of nothing major. But it is completely dead. If I plug it in to usb on my mac mini or thinkpad it comes on sometimes. I see apple logo and it reset some how. Not sure what happened. Now I get the screen and it says english etc. It even show half juice now. Bright screen. But 30 seconds later the screen fades and it turns off. The click wheel does even seem to respond. I can replace that no bigee. But about the power would a new battery help. Also If I completely remove the battery will it still power on like if I connect it to my jbl speaker dock or the wall ac adapter made by apple. I read some other forums people say if you remove the battery it still works. But haven't been able to verify that. Or is it not worth it and just resell it for parts for 20 or so.