'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues

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    MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    With the GSM version of the iPhone having received considerable attention for issues with loss of cellular signal when held in a "death grip" position, observers have been interested to see whether a similar issue affects the Verizon iPhone with its modified antenna design.

    iLounge reports that not only has it been able to demonstrate loss of cellular signal strength with the same "death grip", but it has also been able to hamper Wi-Fi reception by subjecting the device to a grip dubbed the "death hug".
    It's not clear if such a "death hug" is of any practical concern.

    Apple CEO Steve Jobs famously referred to the antenna problems with the original iPhone 4 as a "non issue", telling a customer to simply "avoid holding it in that way".

    All phones do suffer from some attenuation when gripped tightly in certain ways, a phenomenon caused by the human body's natural ability to absorb signals in the range used for cellular and wireless networks. Critics of the iPhone 4, however, argued that the effect was seen by some simply by bridging the iPhone 4's antenna with your hand. The video makes no effort to see if this antenna bridging remains a factor on the Verizon iPhone 4.

    Article Link: 'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues
  2. Vantage Point macrumors 65816

    Mar 1, 2010
    New Jersey
    No iPhone yet but I think I'll stick with AT&T when I get one. rollover minutes (better value) and talking and surfing at the same time seem worth it.
  3. Ballis macrumors 6502a

    May 27, 2008
    Oslo, Norway
  4. gkarris macrumors 604


    Dec 31, 2004
    "No escape from Reality..."
  5. 7o7munoz7o7 macrumors regular


    Jun 30, 2010
    Bay Area
    UGH!!!! IM sooooooooooooooooooooooo SICK of seeing that CRAP.....we ALL know that phone will do it....you arent cool because you say some big a$$ words to describe what happens when we ALL know and have ALL seen it with a bunch of phones NOT just the iPhone....so **** with this already!!! :mad:
  6. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC

    Same phone design works similarly to other phones of same design.

    People are shocked? Surprised?

    It's time to move on...everyone should know about this by now.
  7. shadowbird423 macrumors regular


    Sep 8, 2009
    Chapel Hill
  8. Dandrews524 macrumors 6502

    Jan 30, 2009
    New York
    i am trying very hard to replicate these results with my verizon iphone and all i lose is one bar, if that. when i had an at&t iphone, all i had to do was THINK about holding it wrong and it would drop to one or no bars. dont be too swayed by this anti-verizon propaganda, i think your local coverage might have something to do with it
  9. coolaaron88 macrumors member


    May 28, 2010
    Las Vegas, Nevada

    Time to dig into the bumper budget again eh?

  10. Moyank24 macrumors 601


    Aug 31, 2009
    in a New York State of mind
    Welcome back June/July 2010.

    Oh, how I missed you.
  11. deputy_doofy macrumors 65816


    Sep 11, 2002
    iLounge must need some hits. Hasn't it been proven that all phones do this to some extent? Or are we ignoring signal degradation when it happens to other phones?
  12. gkarris macrumors 604


    Dec 31, 2004
    "No escape from Reality..."
    ha, ha...

    How are the screen colors? :eek:

  13. jtalbert macrumors newbie

    Nov 7, 2007
    Come on! Who holds their phone like that in the first place? Sure if you let your hand have sex with your phone by totally molesting it, you will have signal issues. I have been using an iPhone 4 since the day it came out, and I have never encountered anttenaegate...
  14. chris617 macrumors newbie

    Feb 1, 2011
    I know we all love our iPhones, but seriously here... just hug and squeeze the thing a little less vigorously and you won't lose any signal. Despite Apple's engineering prowess, they can't defy physics and make antennas that don't suffer attenuation when "death gripped". Neither can Nokia, Motorola, LG, Siemens, etc.
  15. thetaylor13 macrumors regular


    May 14, 2010
    this she-ite has officially become annoying.....again
  16. Merthyrboy macrumors 6502

    Jul 21, 2008
    It doesn't sound at all threatening called the death hug. I wonder if it drops bars inside a lead cage?
  17. xnu macrumors regular


    Jul 15, 2004
    "Death Hug".... funny. I still think Steve Jobs is right, non-issue. Only the most lonely of people hug their phone. Ok, I have done it once or twice, but still not a issue.
  18. tigress666 macrumors 68040

    Apr 14, 2010
    Washington State
    *insert eye roll here*

    Yeah... you cover up an antenna, it's going to lose effectiveness... gee duh!

    You want a better phone design that helps alleviate that? Bring back the phones that had antennas that stick up above the phone where you wouldn't be holding it. You want your nifty small phones that don't have antennas that stick out... well, you'll have to worry about where you hold it might cover up the antenna.

    Even my old Nokia phone had in its manual "do not cover this area" on the area that had the antenna. I think that's Apple's biggest mistake. If they just put that in the user's manual, people would just take it for granted it was normal operation and quit raising a stink over something that Jobs had it right, "don't hold it like that!" The only thing wrong he did was forget that he's PR for his company so he can't be so blunt about it. But he had a point!
  19. goinskiing macrumors 6502a


    Jun 25, 2008
    Meridian, ID
    I'm surprised (well perhaps not really) that people are surprised about this. Wow.
  20. lifeinhd macrumors 65816


    Mar 26, 2008
    Next we'll have the "death walk," where if you stand on top of your iPhone, it breaks :eek:
  21. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    Oh, crap. And I'll bet if you smash it on the ground, the glass breaks, too.
  22. WillJS macrumors 65816


    Jan 6, 2007
    Nobody holds the phone with that exaggeration of a death grip. His palm covers a fourth of the screen! Yes, it has an antenna issue, we've known that for a while now. Re-position your grip on the phone and ! suddenly it's issue free! :rolleyes:
  23. r2fa3l macrumors regular

    Oct 8, 2010
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    don't hug it like that.
  24. camophone macrumors newbie

    Feb 3, 2011
    There is no issue. Mine is working perfectly and my wifi connection is sooo much better then when I had my Droid on the same wifi network. I'm EXTREMELY happy.

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