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spoon72

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Interested and within my budget for that price range for use with Mac mini, any comment on this model ?
 

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Personally, I find 27" too big for 1920x1080 resolution, meaning you will be able to see the jagged pixels in a font. I find 23-34 inches the sweet spot for 1920x1080. I am using the U2414HM IPS and they have a U2415H IPS improving some of the lesser features of U2414HM (the horrible touch control panel) at $50 cheaper.

You should check them out at a local store to see if the resolution at 27" suits you first.
 
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spoon72

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Personally, I find 27" too big for 1920x1080 resolution, meaning you will be able to see the jagged pixels in a font. I find 23-34 inches the sweet spot for 1920x1080. I am using the U2414HM IPS and they have a U2415H IPS improving some of the lesser features of U2414HM (the horrible touch control panel) at $50 cheaper.

You should check them out at a local store to see if the resolution at 27" suits you first.

Been using 27" iMac for 5 yrs and so use to that size , not sure still can accept anything less than that . Still holding for hope of a newer model of Mac mini.
 

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If you have a 2011 iMac with a 27" monitor, that's a 2560x1440 monitor (that seems to be the model that fits your hardware description). The Dell S2715H is a 1920x1080 monitor (as mentioned by Kaida). I'm pretty sure you will find that a major step down in terms of screen real estate. I go between a 2560x1440 and a 1920x1080 monitor and when I use the 1920x1080, I'm always thinking I with I had more pixels. But that computer is mainly used as a DVR so it's not a big deal for me. When you refer to the Mini, I'm presuming your talking about a recent (2012 and later) Mini - I have the 2012 and it supports 2560x1440 nicely - I'm not sure what earlier Mini's can do.
 

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Is there big different between using hdmi and display port connection ? As some model they have either one type or both for higher end model.
 

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Is there big different between using hdmi and display port connection ? As some model they have either one type or both for higher end model.

We'd need to know the Mini model year. Both DisplayPort and HDMI have version numbers which specify what capabilities they support. For the 2014 model, it officially supports Mini DisplayPort 1.2 output at up to 2560x1600 resolution at 60Hz, or 3840x2160 resolution at 30Hz. HDMI 1.4a is a maximum resolution of 4096×2160 at 24 Hz or 3840×2160 (Ultra HD) at 30 Hz. The DisplayPort 1.2 standard is supposed to be Ultra HD at up to 75Hz, but the 2014 Mini can only support up to 30Hz so there reading the fine print is important.

For the monitor, I don't think and am not aware of any difference in displaying in picture quality between HDMI and DisplayPort at the same resolution and refresh rate.
 

spoon72

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We'd need to know the Mini model year. Both DisplayPort and HDMI have version numbers which specify what capabilities they support. For the 2014 model, it officially supports Mini DisplayPort 1.2 output at up to 2560x1600 resolution at 60Hz, or 3840x2160 resolution at 30Hz. HDMI 1.4a is a maximum resolution of 4096×2160 at 24 Hz or 3840×2160 (Ultra HD) at 30 Hz. The DisplayPort 1.2 standard is supposed to be Ultra HD at up to 75Hz, but the 2014 Mini can only support up to 30Hz so there reading the fine print is important.

For the monitor, I don't think and am not aware of any difference in displaying in picture quality between HDMI and DisplayPort at the same resolution and refresh rate.

Thanks for the detail info, currently looking at 2014 model but still on the fence.
 

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Is there big different between using hdmi and display port connection ?

FWIW, I was thinking of upgrading to a 27" monitor on my 2012 quad mini. But I need the thunderbolt port for a BlackMagic video device for Final Cut Pro, so I have to use HDMI. And that will only support 1920x1200 on the 2012 models. So I am sticking with my ancient 23" Apple Cinema Display at 1920x1200. I agree, 27" is just too big for 1920x1080.

The 2014 Mini would give me more options since it has two thunderbolt ports. But then I would have to settle for a machine that is much slower than my 2012 quad. ;)
 

spoon72

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Hi guys Wishing you all a happy New Year 2017!
I have ordered this LG 29um68 since it is cheaper than the dell, also ordered the mini display port to display port 1.2 cable.
 

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let us know how it went and if you can post a photo or comparison will be aweosme

I have collected and installed the monitor using Mini DisplayPort to the monitor it's hdmi on my Lenova notebook. Still considering to buy 2014 Mac mini or carry on waiting for the "new" model to appear if there any in 2017.
 
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TheGenerous

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I have collected and installed the monitor using Mini DisplayPort to the monitor it's hdmi on my Lenova notebook. Still considering to buy 2014 Mac mini or carry on waiting for the "new" model to appear if there any in 2017.

I'm waiting for the Dell p2415q to arrive, I have a 2012 MacMini (16GB RAM, SSD). I'll post here how it goes for magazine and book design in InDesign.

By the way, I love Singapore, been to Holland Village and LASALLE art school. Everybody in Singapore is so nice and relaxed. Can't wait to visit again
 

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Hi guys Wishing you all a happy New Year 2017!
I have ordered this LG 29um68 since it is cheaper than the dell, also ordered the mini display port to display port 1.2 cable.
Which Dell is that LG monitor cheaper than in your marketplace spoon72? Amazon lists the LG for > $60 higher than the S2715H. Also, you should realize that Kaida's resolution comment is still relevant with that monitor. Others may be able to provide reports based on usage but it seems like that LG 29um68 is merely a wider version of a plain HD 1080p monitor. Any late model mini can handle more resolution and a smaller dot pitch. That LG monitor will rival or even best your iMac in size but the resolution could be considerably lower. :oops: Which iMac do you have?

I'm waiting for the Dell p2415q to arrive, I have a 2012 MacMini (16GB RAM, SSD). I'll post here how it goes for magazine and book design in InDesign.
Although that smaller Dell P2415Q is only $60 more than the S2715H it is a 4K monitor. Please do let us know how that monitor works for you TheGenerous. Although I am considering monitors for my 2012 mini I am tending toward displays like the U2515H and U2715H. Their native 2560 x 1440 resolution is supported by the 2012 mini with a 60Hz refresh rate. That Dell 4K is nice but I am leery of compromising my display quality by scaling down from the monitor's native resolution or running at a reduced refresh rate of less than ~60Hz. :oops:
 

Kaida

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I have collected and installed the monitor using Mini DisplayPort to the monitor it's hdmi on my Lenova notebook. Still considering to buy 2014 Mac mini or carry on waiting for the "new" model to appear if there any in 2017.

I don't think the Mac mini will come out this year. Apple has too many things outdated and I really don't think the Mac mini is on top of their priority list. Even a Kaby Lake MBP will be listed on higher priority than a Mac mini. So I think it will be safe to buy now if you need a machine :)
 

spoon72

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Which Dell is that LG monitor cheaper than in your marketplace spoon72? Amazon lists the LG for > $60 higher than the S2715H. Also, you should realize that Kaida's resolution comment is still relevant with that monitor. Others may be able to provide reports based on usage but it seems like that LG 29um68 is merely a wider version of a plain HD 1080p monitor. Any late model mini can handle more resolution and a smaller dot pitch. That LG monitor will rival or even best your iMac in size but the resolution could be considerably lower. :oops: Which iMac do you have?

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You are quite right about the price different , I decided to go for it since after discount the LG 29um68 cost me about USD237 further more the main reason is that I usually use it for surfing net and watching movie and I'm also curious on wide screen monitor which I never own one before.
My previous iMAC was 27" mid 2011 the highest spec.
Now using the monitor on the win 7 notebook while waiting and wondering should I go for 2014 Mac mini or keep on hoping for a 2017 Mac mini
 

spoon72

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I'm waiting for the Dell p2415q to arrive, I have a 2012 MacMini (16GB RAM, SSD). I'll post here how it goes for magazine and book design in InDesign.

By the way, I love Singapore, been to Holland Village and LASALLE art school. Everybody in Singapore is so nice and relaxed. Can't wait to visit again

Glad that you have a great experience in Singapore , definitely not relax for Singaporean but good for tourists.
 

spoon72

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I don't think the Mac mini will come out this year. Apple has too many things outdated and I really don't think the Mac mini is on top of their priority list. Even a Kaby Lake MBP will be listed on higher priority than a Mac mini. So I think it will be safe to buy now if you need a machine :)

Yes I hate to admit the remote chance of a 2017 Mac mini but hoping for a miracle .
Might get a 3Ghz i7 with 16g ram. Wonder Apple staff has what sort of discount, a friend's friend of mine is Apple staff .
 

Celerondon

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Good luck to you if you decide to wait for the new Mac mini. By my reckoning the Mm is rather overdue for an update. We should almost certainly have a new Mm by November. ;)

I don't think that you will need much luck with your new monitor. The Amazon reviews for that wide display are mostly raves about how wonderful it is. It expect that it transformed your Lenova notebook completely. How do you like the LG so far? :D
 

Kaida

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Yes I hate to admit the remote chance of a 2017 Mac mini but hoping for a miracle .
Might get a 3Ghz i7 with 16g ram. Wonder Apple staff has what sort of discount, a friend's friend of mine is Apple staff .

Apple staff gets 15% off retail.

But I think you should be looking for those 2nd hand ones with remaining Apple care rather than a brand new one with Apple. It costs close to 2k with 3.0ghz and 16gb of ram. As for the storage, I would recommend that you just pick up the 256gb pcie ssd and add on a 2tb spinner with a hdd kit yourself. If you need any help with installing or getting the right parts, i'm in the same neighbourhood :)
 

TheGenerous

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...I am leery of compromising my display quality by scaling down from the monitor's native resolution or running at a reduced refresh rate of less than ~60Hz. :oops:

I'm getting the monitor to work on InDesign for book design, so is mainly to have a digital version on my screen that seems as good as if it was printed with out having to print as much as is used to for checking legibility at scale. Also scaling down doesn't seem as a bad idea, for what I understand even the iMac and Macbooks scale down when connected to 4K and 5K displays. I don't see the need for 4K in my work other than as a better 1080p option. For photos edited in Lightroom I'll work in whatever resolution has a 60Hz refresh rate and I can always check the final product in 4K with a lower refresh rate.

http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...-osx-with-a-4k-display-is-an-effective-r?rq=1
 
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FWIW, I was thinking of upgrading to a 27" monitor on my 2012 quad mini. But I need the thunderbolt port for a BlackMagic video device for Final Cut Pro, so I have to use HDMI. And that will only support 1920x1200 on the 2012 models. So I am sticking with my ancient 23" Apple Cinema Display at 1920x1200. I agree, 27" is just too big for 1920x1080.

The 2014 Mini would give me more options since it has two thunderbolt ports. But then I would have to settle for a machine that is much slower than my 2012 quad. ;)

I think you can use a Monitor with a Thunderbolt Throughput / daisy chain and connect the Graphics card into that. That was one of the benefits of Thunderbolt (I think).
Maybe google thunderbolt 2 and see if this is possible.
 

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Yes, I think that could be done with the Apple Thunderbolt display. They are no longer available however, was thinking about getting one awhile ago but waited too long. At that time, I was not aware of any third party monitors that had this capability. Maybe something has changed recently?
 
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