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Do you think Yahoo got an early peak at iOS 7?
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I agree! I think Apple is getting help from some yahoo designers on iOS 7. The ios 7 weather app is practically yahoo's with less details.
If you look at the design of the new notification center, the design resembles yahoo's weather app too
We have a winner. I'm as much of an apple fanboy as the next guy but the iOS 7 weather app is too similar to the yahoo app. Not a great precedent to set for the developer community. I didn't realize "Think Different" meant copy blatantly.
Hmm...if Apple did this don't you think someone from Yahoo would be complaining about being ripped off and that would have leaked to the press? Yahoo's app was one of Apple's design award winners. Rumor has it Ive personally called up Marisa Mayer to tell her how much Apple liked the app. Seems a little unlikely then that Apple would just rip it off. Plus the fact that it is so similar makes me think they collaborated on it or Apple got permission from Yahoo to design something similar. Again if it was a complete ripoff without Yahoo's knowlede someone at Yahoo would have bitched about it and we'd know about it b/c those kinds of things don't stay secret.
The developers of the Yahoo app themselves will tell you, after all they are the ones who won the Apple design awards.
And actually Apple was smart to incorporate their stunning design into their OS, after all they're already teamed up.
As it turns out, both of the Apps are good, but but I'd say Apple's is actually better because it shows real time animations of the weather instead of pictures from Flickr.
It doesn't matter if that's exactly what happened. It makes for good gossip.
Seriously though, the Yahoo app was released first in April 2013. At that point Apple had to have known their design for the iOS weather app would look strikingly similar. The base pages are essentially identical. The yahoo app actually is a little more functional so the perception will be that Apple "borrowed" heavily. Even if it is not true, the perception will still be present because the Apple app comes out after the Yahoo app. Again I'm an Apple fanboy and am actually thrilled that iOS is getting such awesome weather apps.
Try the Take Weather app.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/take-weather-photo-sharing/id579630181?mt=8
I wish the iOS 7 weather app had the local radar in it. Like the Yahoo! Weather app. Thats would be a nice touch. And like said before, Flickr integration so we can have great photos in the background
1. Marissa Mayer (yahoo CEO) is a well known Apple fan girl- even when she was back at Google.
2. She's friends with Jony Ive. There is a photo floating around of a dinner party she hosted with Silicon Valley big shots and Ive is seated right next to her.
3. She was in the WWDC keynote audience.
4. There are rumors that Apple is working closely together with Yahoo to integrate more of their services.
2. She's friends with Jony Ive. There is a photo floating around of a dinner party she hosted with Silicon Valley big shots and Ive is seated right next to her.
3. She was in the WWDC keynote audience.
4. There are rumors that Apple is working closely together with Yahoo to integrate more of their services.
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The developers of the Yahoo! app haven't told me that. Have they told that to anyone? Where is this information?
www.themoneytimes.com/featured/20130426/all-new-flickr-powered-yahoo-weather-app-here-id-1701713150.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheMoneyTimes+%28The+Money+Times%29
Yahoo Weather only came about because of the acquisitions made by Yahoo CEO. When this app came out there was no mention of Apple at all.
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And if they didn't want to or couldn't mention Apple due to the nature of their collaboration (and the fact that iOS 7 was basically still a secret then)? Lack of mentioning some information doesn't mean that information isn't there or doesn't apply.
I just don't see this as a collaboration. There might be an agreement between Apple and Yahoo but they didn't "collaborate" on anything. It's not like they had meetings to decide the design or content. If that was the case Yahoo wouldn't have continued updating their app since they would have known Apple would be releasing the same thing.
If there is an "Agreement" or "Understanding" it feels like the same thing you might "negotiate" with a Mob boss. Yahoo is clearly a disaster and Marissa Mayer will do anything to turn it around. Trying to get on the Apple bandwagon is clearly the right idea but let's not kid ourselves into thinking Apple didn't use every ounce of their power to get the better deal and make Yahoo agree to hand over the design.
It just doesn't make sense that Yahoo would spend any time updating a weather app of all things if they had a deal with Apple to turn over that same design. No CEO, especially one at a company losing money, could justify that. Yahoo clearly spent a lot of time building and designing that app. Now they just agree to hand it over so Apple can showcase that same design as their own? Just doesn't sound right.
If there is an "Agreement" or "Understanding" it feels like the same thing you might "negotiate" with a Mob boss. Yahoo is clearly a disaster and Marissa Mayer will do anything to turn it around. Trying to get on the Apple bandwagon is clearly the right idea but let's not kid ourselves into thinking Apple didn't use every ounce of their power to get the better deal and make Yahoo agree to hand over the design.
It just doesn't make sense that Yahoo would spend any time updating a weather app of all things if they had a deal with Apple to turn over that same design. No CEO, especially one at a company losing money, could justify that. Yahoo clearly spent a lot of time building and designing that app. Now they just agree to hand it over so Apple can showcase that same design as their own? Just doesn't sound right.
This could be a likely scenario.
1. Ives used the Yahoo weather app and liked the design
2. He phones up Mayer and asks her "hey I'm redisgning iOS, want to show case your weather app in the new OS?"
3. A couple of engineers on both sides work on the collaborated app
4. Yahoo still updates their app because their app has Flickr integrated and a few more features
Yup Yahoo! is an obvious disaster with their stock almost doubling in the last year or so when a lot of stocks are still going down. Making good investments like Tumblr that only a failing company could make. Yup, disaster.
Please tell me you don't believe that stock price means anything about how the company is actually doing. If so then you must think Apple is going out of business. This is how Yahoo is actually doing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/yahoo-q1-2013_n_3094799.html
And this is what Yahoo does with acquisitions
http://gizmodo.com/flashback-how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-interne-508852335
Btw the stock market is killing it and is at or near the highest levels in history. Bringing up the stock price is a weak and lazy argument and doesn't in any way address the core arguement of this thread.
I agree with all this except point #2. How does Apple using the Yahoo design in any way "showcase" the Yahoo app. If anything it eliminates it from being downloaded. It's not like Apple has a note saying "Desiged by Yahoo" or "Partnered with Yahoo". No one mentioned Yahoo during the keynote.
I might be reaching here but, in the iOS weather app it says weather.com powered by yahoo. But in yahoo's app the weather is provided by wunderground.com. Could this mean powered equals "design" in this case? Who knows
That 'more information' is part of why I agree with the notion of not having a built in weather, stocks etc app. Many folks don't need them and there are way better ones in the App Store including by Yahoo. Why would I want some of the info they have when I could get their app and have all of it.
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Particularly not in a world where some two bit analyst gets monster press for claims of a source that says there's a delay in this or that unannounced product and the price drops in half overnight