Don't Be Evil, Google!

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Irishman, Jan 28, 2013.

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    Really. Let's bring this up again, shall we?

    Apple sued over iPhone tracking: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2384301,00.asp

    And oh look, I found the group on Facebook that is trying to bring up this dead horse. They will go away (for a price, of course). And really? 10 million Safari users in the U.K.? So, 20% of all Britons are using Safari as their default browser? LOL Sure. Sure.

    http://m.facebook.com/SafariUsersAgainstGooglesSecretTracking?id=445369945535884&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F&_rdr
     
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    Previously I quite enjoyed reading your posts, they were well thought out, balanced and sometimes humorous. Your bias however has recently become quite extreme, and your dislike of anything non Apple is now quite tiring. Shame really, at first I didn't think that you were that blinkered.

    You are now ignored.
     
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    Lets not be biased. Almost all tech companies are "evil" in some way, shape, or form, even your beloved Apple
     
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    I will...try...to carry on without your previously unknown support.

    Did I write the article? I posted it here, and tried to put it in some context.

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    Absolutely. Should I fail to call the kettle black simply because the pot shares its color?
     
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    No, Apple is not as evil as Google when it comes to the use of personal data.

    Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/16/google-privacy-policies-eu-data-protection

    and using an android device is a further compromise of personal privacy. Apple is far better in restricting what info your apps have access to.

    link: http://www.trendmicro.co.uk/newsroo...ware-spikes-over-past-three-months/index.html
     
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    I never bought that "Don't Be Evil" slogan of Googles. I do like and use many of their products and services and am generally OK with most of what Google does, but not everything. So far, I'm generally happy with Google.

    When I first heard that slogan, I dismissed it as just some PR move. It actually turned me off a little and seemed just rather arrogant of them to proclaim they are supposed to be morally better than others. My initial reaction was, "yeah, right!"
     
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    So, is there an official scale we can look at to determine this? :rolleyes: If not, then my opinion means more than yours.
     
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    I'd say the opinion of the European Commission and that of Trend Micro means more than yours;)
     
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    Good news for Apple, they can now sue Google for $
     
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    I can see why some people get edgy about their browsing being tracked, but I literally couldn't care less. In fact I welcome it. They do it to provide better services to their customers, why wouldn't anyone want a better service for no cost?

    And yes advertising sucks, but if it's got to be there, I'd rather it be for something I might have some intrest in rather than hot males in my area or things of that nature!
     
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    I just can't wrap my head around exactly when and why the possibility of even more frivolous corporate lawsuits become "good news".
     
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    Google was had saintly motives, they have one purpose - to make money. that don't be evil line in Google's code of conduct is just marketing.

    I don't hate google, but I'm not under any illusion that they are actively looking to be "saintly" as you put it. Their tracking of safari, is but one chapter in their desire to capture all information to sell.
     
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    And it's another reason I don't create a Google account, despite the fact that you have no idea how much I would love the integrated browsing feature as I go from device to device.

    The price Google is asking is too high for me.
     
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    I won't disagree with you, but if you want to use android then you basically need a gmail account. You may get around getting one but it will be a bit awkward.

    I don't like them using my info, but I limit my usage. For instance, while I do have a gmail account and have used android, gmail is not my main email account.

    They're not alone however, so we can single them out as being evil for collecting and selling my information, all other social sites do this. Facebook does this, as we are the product they market to companies. My point is privacy in this age is a myth. Have a checking account, credit cards, cable tv? They all in some form use your data for marketing.
     
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    Must admit, I'm the same.

    It is naive to think that any large technology company like Google or Apple doesn't mine info from their users, IMHO they're all as bad/good as each other. I have nothing to worry about this happening to me.
     
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    You are absolutely incorrect. "Don't be evil" has nothing to do with marketing, it is the mantra. It applies to everyone in the company, as it is essentially the code of conduct. Everyone at Google is expected to abide by it and not "be evil". Simply put, it's all a part of the culture at Google and the way things operate there.


    How so?
     
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    Bingo! And all corporations lie their ass off to put money on the bottom line.
     
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    Indeed - We like to think of Google as "free", but when you use it you are paying, in one way or another. If it's not upfront, then it's most likely your personal data. And who can argue with that? People use free services, but then turn round and complain when the operator of those services tries to montinize them.
     
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    Exactly. Big companies are around to make money and most people forget that. I have always said if the consumer wants an equalizer, it would be the ability to sell your data to someone like Google. I would postulate that your data is more valuable than the online services you use.
     
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    Most people also don't know that when you're using a service such as Google or FaceBook, you're NOT the customer. You're the PRODUCT. The customers are the advertisers, who are the ones that actually pay up the $$$.
     
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    Because Apple is not accused of breaking European Data Protection Law and seems to show more of an effort to ensure compliance by appointing former deputy data protection commissioner Gary Davis as head of privacy in Europe.

    link: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2013/0125/1224329252816.html

    While,

    link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/29/google-group-privacy-claim-iphone-tracking

    Apple is not as evil as Google:D
     
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    Lol everyone is sooo concerned about there precious privacy. Meanwhile they are checking into to a local restaurant on facebook and posting a picture of exactly what they bought.

    I wish people would be more private so it would annoy me less.
     

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