Download You Tube Videos?

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    Is it legal? If so, is there an easy way to download and save You Tube videos?

    I found this site: http://keepvid.com/ which seems to be easy. I'm in the process of testing.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks! :)
     
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    why not just use Firefox and Video DownloadHelper plugin? It's free, fast and easy (I just downloaded 52 clips that I'm now converting with Handbrake for Keynotes and AppleTV useage)
     
  5. Huntn, Feb 22, 2011
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    Sorry, this post rambles...
    I downloaded a file using KeepVid. It has a .flv suffix. Quicktime won't play it. Is there a good free FLV to QT conversion program? I have QT Pro. I saw a blurb online that said if you drag an .flv file over the QT icon, it will offer to save it as .mov format. But when I try this with the .flv file I downloaded with KeepVid, QT told me it was not a movie. If I double click the file, Flash launches but I get a 'failed to open document' message.

    Regarding Firefox and the plug in, if videos are downloaded and nothing else is done to them, will they play as Quicktime? If not, what program do you recommend to convert?

    Update: I've installed the Firefox Video Download Helper and under preferences for conversion it mentions FFMpeg and MEncoder. With the intent of converting this to QT, should the conversion format be FFMpeg or will either work for QT? Or should it be downloaded without a conversion selected?

    After downloading the same You Tube video using the Firefox Video Download Helper, with FFMpeg as the conversion, I have another file with a .flv extension. QT time says it's not a movie. Double clicking the file opens Flash and I get a 'failed to open document' message.


    Under the Firefox Video Download Helper documentation I read:
    Does this mean I need a separate program for this step? QTPro maybe? What should I do next?

    I'm also going to try Clipgrab, but have not gotten around to it yet.

    Thanks guys! :)
     
  6. Huntn, Feb 28, 2011
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    Ok, this is what I found to be an easy solution for now.

    1. Find the Video url with Safari.
    2. Select Command/Option/A- opens the activity window.
    3. Start the video. (For the applicable file to appear in the next step. You'll see the video progress bar.) If you are looking at the Activity Window when you start the video, you should see a new large file load. That's the video file. It maybe located near the top of the list under sub categories that say something like 2 items, 8 items.
    4. In the long list of files that appears, find the large file, most likely over 1MB and double click it. It may download as a .flv file. If it is a video with stills and music, the music may download as "videoplayback". After it is down downloading add the .flv suffix and give it a better name if you desire and QT should play it.

    1. Or in Firefox, download Video Download Helper and install it. Three little balls show up in you menu. Use it to download .flv files.

    4. Install Perian on your Mac. Perian adds video formats that QT can use among them .flv (flash) files.
    5. Select file and open with Quick Time to play the video. I have QT Pro. I don't know if you must have this for Perian to work.

    For myself, this is so much better than streaming the video which can be jerky and slow. Thank you MaxOSX Hints! :)
     
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    @Huntn, why not download the .mp4 with KeepVid? Shouldn't have to bother with .flv..

    Want a screenshot?
     
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    I use ClickToFlash (extension and plugin for Safari):
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  10. Huntn, Feb 28, 2011
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    I did use KeepVid and what I got was a .flv. Now that I installed Perian on my Mac, QT plays .flv just fine, but I should go back and check it out again and do the MP4 thing. Is MP4 better than .flv?

    Edit: I just downloaded a video with .flv and it is described as "med quality" for 640x 360, and takes up 6.6 MB. But for the mp4, it described it as "high quality" but it was only 480x360 and it takes up 10MB. Strange. Any ideas?

    The good thing about Safari is that you are not having to go to a 3rd party site for the download.
     
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    .mp4 is just a container for MPEG-4 encoded video, as is .flv. It just is more universally accepted standardly by various applications.
    You can even just rename .flv to .mp4, at least that is what I read when YT changed to H264 encoded videos.
     
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    Ok, go to any YouTube video and press the KeepVid button on your toolbar that looks like (V). You should see a screen like below, after you accept that the Java applet should run.

    If you download the MP4, you can view it directly in QuickTime.

    If you download FLV, you can play it in VLC. Download VLC here, it is free:
    http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
     

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    This didn't work for me..
     

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    Maybe it was possible back then or I confuse it with something else. I should have used the words "may be able to" instead of "can" of beans.
     
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    I use RealPlayer. It works well.. and it is free! And works more than just youtube...
     
  16. Huntn, Mar 1, 2011
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    First I'll answer one of my questions after sleeping on it. If you are Mac centric, MP4 would be better for usability purposes considering that some Mac devices don't support flash. I'll accept a 3rd party program and a 3rd party web site to assist in the process if it is required, but obviously the simpler the better.

    KeepVid works great for downloading .mp4s. Just for my bag of tricks, does anyone know of a free .flv to .mp4 converter? I ask because when using the downloadhelper addon in Firefox, some sites other than YouTube just have flash format videos.

    I understand Handbrake is free and I may end up using it but it is intel only. I have MBP but I spend a lot of time on my Dual 1.8 PPC G5 so a universal program would be nice if there is one. :)

    I'll check this out. Thanks. Do you have a choice of file format to download? Or what do you end up with? Does it work on other sites with video on them?

    I've noticed in YouTube videos for one video you are going to find both .flv and .mp4 versions. Do you have a choice what to download? If not what do you end up with.

    As mentioned by Neko Girl, this does not work for me. Some file conversion appears to be required.

    I don't have a V in my toolbar, at least I can't find it. Is this something from YouTube or KeepVid? I've decided MP4 is what I'm going to focus on due to my Mac leanings. :) Thanks for the help.
     
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    http://mac.oldapps.com/handbrake.php


    .mp4 and no choice.


    I already gave an answer to neko girl.
     
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    Jdownloader.... probably one of the best around. It will pick out anything downloadable from fx a YouTube link, even just the music part of the link.
    You can fill in your login info to your RapidShare premium account, and the command+c as many rapidshare links as you want and it will check if they are online. If yes then just continue and leave your computer alone while it downloads all the links you found.

    You can even get a Remote for your iPhone or Android phone now, so you can add links on the fly while at work fx...
     
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    Yup! You can covert to many different video files. It only works on youtube I think.
     
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    I've attached a picture of the toolbar button that should appear when you install KeepVid.

    In YouTube, you can always ensure you are looking at mp4 version if you take the YouTube URL and add: &fmt=18

    So,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5c_MYLDV-w

    becomes..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5c_MYLDV-w&fmt=18

    You don't need to do this for KeepVid, but if you are using some method to download videos, like the Window > Activity window, then you will need to.
     

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    That old apps link is outstanding. Thanks.

    Some of the online music lesson sites have instructional video, but it's hard to get at for download. My only interest is to get faster playback for myself, nothing more. I've installed Click to Flash on Safari but am having some difficulty figuring it out. My goal is to download such videos and end up with a MP4 file. I've looked at this link and don't see it:

    http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoflash/

    Any ideas? Thanks for the help.
     
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    I have the CTF extension installed and just right click on a YT video, or any other video that gets offered in Flash and MPEG-4 format, therefore it will not work with every site, I can choose "Download Video", but maybe you have to check the Extension settings for CTF first and enable the "Download Video" menu item in "Contextual Menu Items".

    Can you provide a link to the page you want to download from? Have you tried Firefox and the Video Download Helper add-on?
     
  23. Huntn, Mar 1, 2011
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    I appreciate your help. :) Are you doing this in Safari or Firefox? On the KeepVid site there is a "KeepVidBookmarklet" that says drag to my toolbar. In Safari, I dragged it up to where my URLs are and it says "Keep It" but there is no V. However that 'Keep' it seems to work for identifying a video for download on You Tube. It does not work on another site I frequent.

    I'll play some more with it and then get back with you on this. I'd like to get this into the Guide below. Thanks for the help!

    I've looked through MR Guides and don't see one on this subject so I am preparing a Guide to publish. This is what I have so far. For anyone, please let me know what needs to be edited or added. Thanks!

    To Be Published as a MacRumors Guide:
    Downloading Video
    Multiple solutions for downloading video from You Tube and other sites. For myself, this is so much better than streaming the video which can be jerky and slow. Thank you MaxOSX Hints for getting me going! :) As a Mac user, due to Apple moving away from Flash I've decided there is more utility using MP4.

    Summary First
    1. KeepVid- A site which allows you to download video. For simplicity working with You Tube, this site is a winner, but it may not see video on other sites.
    2. If you are dealing with You Tube and other sites, the Safari method is the winner because the Activity Window, allows you to snag videos on other sites that KeepVid may not be able to see. It provides simple file download in FLV (flash) formats and then convert them into MP4 using Handbrake.

    Helper Programs and Web Sites
    * KeepVid- Site which allows you to download video. Works well for You Tube, but on 3rd party sites it may not see the video.
    * Handbrake does a an outstanding job of converting FLV to MP4. Intel Handbrake. PPC Handbrake.
    * QTAmateur, universal binary, runs in 10.3.9 to at least 10.5.8 and will convert FLV to MP4, however it reduces the size of some higher quality videos. When I start with a 6.6MB FLV file and convert it to MP4. I end up with a 2.6MB file with a noticeably smaller display. Under settings, I don't see a way to preserve the larger format.
    * Fastest Free You Tube Downloader. You Tube only?
    * Click To Flash Safari extension that I've found hard to figure out.

    Safari
    1. Find the Video url with Safari.
    2. Select Command/Option/A- which opens the Activity Window.
    3. Start the video. (For the applicable file to appear in the next step. You'll see the video progress bar.)
    4. In the Activity Window there will be a long list of files. When you start the video, you should see a new large file load in this window. While many of the files will be in the KB range. The video most likely is 1+MB and can easily be 50MB or more. That's the video file. It maybe located near the top of the list under sub categories that say something like 2 items, 8 items. It may download as a .FLV (Flash) file or labeled as a "videoplayback" file. After it is done downloading give it a better name if you desire.
    5. If you intend to play this file as Flash, and it does not have the .flv suffix, add that. Then install Perian on your Mac. Perian adds video formats that QT can use, among them .flv (flash) files. Do a "Get Info" (Command I) on the file and tell it to open with Quick Time. Are you happy with FLV (Flash) you are done.
    6. If you prefer MP4 skip step 5 and use Handbrake to convert these files to MP4 using the appropriate version: Intel Handbrake. PPC Handbrake. Enjoy!

    Firefox
    1. In Firefox, download Video Download Helper and install it. Three little balls show up in you menu.
    * Use it to download .flv files from You Tube.
    * Use to download .mp4 files from You Tube.
    * Some sites clearly have video, but Download Helper may not recognize the video. Then use Safari as described above.
    * When I try to download a file and tell Download Helper to convert it, I've been getting an error message that conversion can't take place. It may have to do with this note on the Video Downloader site:
    I'm not sure what FFMPEG conversion program they are referring to?
     
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    Regarding Click to Flash on Safari.

    *I've installed it.
    * On a You Tube page, there is a black window that says 'You tube' where normally there would be a video. Flash is being blocked.
    *When I right-click this area the 2 prominent options are 'Load flash' and 'Click To Flash' settings. If I select CTF settings, I get a window that has a variety of things, but no 'download' option.

    In most cases, I would want to look at a video before deciding if I want to download it but if I select 'load flash' to see the video, I no longer see CTF options. I'm feeling a little slow on this. :\.

    In addition I may be too comfortable with Firefox, but when I look around the menus in Safari, I can't locate a settings page for Safari addons. Safari seems to be unfriendly in this regard. If there is such a page could someone point me at it? I've looked at Safari Prefs and along the drop down menus. Thanks!
     
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