Dr. Dre likes to Beat Women

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Aragornii, Jun 7, 2014.

  1. macrumors 6502

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    So Apple is attempting an image makeover of Dr Dre, with fluff pieces coming out comparing him to Steve Jobs. Don't forget this is the guy we're talking about:

    Stay classy, Apple.

    http://community.allhiphop.com/disc...-incident-damn-dre-really-took-it-to-that-hoe
     
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    Who made you the professor of class? :rolleyes:

    This happened 23 years ago...
     
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    rdowns

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    Why do you think they call them Beats?
     
  4. thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Maybe the fact that I don't beat women?
     
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    Southern Dad

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    He may have changed in the last 23 years.
     
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    Eraserhead

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    To be honest I agree, if he's not done anything similar for so long we shouldn't continue to hound him about it. He did his time.
     
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    There is nothing that you or anyone else can say to stop this deal...

    ....or anything surrounding it that will stop you and millions of others from continuing to buy Apple products in the future. After all, you're in the market for a new iMac. Must have those sweet Apple goodies, no matter the corporation's behaviour.

    Torn between your professed principles and your behaviour, such dissonance and mewling helplessness must burn.
     
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    I am a huge (and unapologetic) fan of Apple. I have a house full of Apple goodies, and look forward to buying a few more this year (I'm looking at you, retina iMac).

    As an Apple shareholder, I'll buck the trend and say I'm also a huge fan of the Beats acquisition, so don't get me wrong on that score. I didn't get it at first, but in retrospect it was an incredibly smart move on a number of levels.

    The entree into the music biz inner circle via Jimmy Iovine and the acquisition of a great streaming platform with perfect synergy for Apple is the real value, but damn people love those Beats headphones. I flew cross country yesterday and I couldn't count the number of people I saw wearing Beats headphones in the airports and on the plane.

    I'm just cracking up at the attempted makeover of Dr Dre. I mean, this guy is the dictionary definition of lowlife thug. You just have to laugh at all these fluff pieces that are obviously damage control coming out of the Apple PR department. :D
     
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    Interesting you chose that specific frame.

    But it's a tedious discussion. It's all about the money, nothing more. Unfortunately, there isn't a single major tech company that doesn't have dirty hands in some way or another... and to completely boycott their offerings on the basis of principle means removing yourself from effectively working and living in developed societies in the 21st century. I admire those that do so, but I'm a hypocrite, like most of us.

    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
     
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    Someone here missed the entire point of Rocky IV.

    Life lesson for you: go back through that movie and listen to his speech after defeating Drago. to put it short: If You can change, and I can change, then EVERYONE can change. Everyone, regardless of what they did in their past, can change.

    The only one who is holding on to what he did back then and trying to use it as a crutch or excuse to get rid of the guy, is you. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror and figure out what things you haven't changed, and work on bettering yourself; Dre did, and look at his results.

    BL.
     
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    I know, this is totally the ancient past.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2e5ZibypDk
     
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    Tyrese? Really? That's all you have to reply with?

    You really don't get it. people can change. There was a staunch KKK member who actually took the time to sit down and talk to a black person once, and did it again and again and again until they realized how much they had in common instead of the hatred towards each other that it brought two staunch racists together as friends. Both turned their past away and vowed to never again be like what they were before.

    If two grumpy old men in their 60s/70s can change, anyone can change. You just don't believe that Dre could and want to hold that against him his entire life and career. That is your problem, your issue, your demons you have to deal with. Dre may have reconciled with his and is happy with where he is at. You just need to get over you.

    BL.
     
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    Mark this day on your calendar... Bradl and I agree on something. You are exactly right.
     
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    The title of this thread is libelous. Ferdinand Porsche was a Nazi, but I'd buy a 911.
     
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    It's not libelous because it's true, but anyway your post doesn't make any sense. I'm not talking about whether I'd have a problem with buying a pair of Beats 60 years from now because its cofounder liked to beat up women. A better example is whether you'd be cool with Apple hiring Chris Brown because he has cred in the music biz. Would you? I wouldn't.
     
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    Do you have evidence to suggest that Dr. Dre enjoys beating women now?

    Do you listen to Michael Jackson?
     
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    A truer title in US newspaperese would have been "Dr Dre Assaulted Woman; Initially Unapologetic; Level of Enjoyment Derived from Attack Unknown".
     
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    Everyone deserves a second chance. Unfair to judge him on this.

    Altho federigji did sound very scared of him at the keynote.
     
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    Why do you say he likes to beat women ? How many women has he beat ?
     
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    Then don't buy their products, regardless of how much of a fan(boi) you may or may not be.

    I'll put it more blunt than before. When I started my leadership business, I was getting criticized all over the place, and shockingly enough, by some members of my family. I shut them up simply saying:

    Same applies. Apple and Dre don't need to be limited by your beliefs, especially because they have the fruit on the tree: the results. You do not. Until you do, you really don't have any room to criticize, condemn, or complain.

    According to Dale Carnegie, only fools do that, and most people do.

    BL.
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    Very, very well said.
     
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    Isn't Chris Brown currently in jail for his violent behaviour?
     
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    Agreed, 23 years is enough time to forgive offenses like this isn't it?
    But I still won't buy the inferior headphones he peddles.
     
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    nfl46

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    Wow. He cares what he did 23 years ago. That shouldn't have anything to do with what's going on right now in 2014. You're ridiculous!
     
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    While I agree in this case it appears that this was 23 years ago and things have changed.

    There are times that things are held against someone longer. Charles Manson has been locked up far longer than that. I don't see anyone advocating forgiveness for him.
     

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