DS Homebrew

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  1. MS bulldog macrumors regular

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    Can anyone recommend a passcard/key or their preferred variant for running homebrew for the NDS Lite?

    I've narrowed it down just by researching online, but I wanted some actual user input such as the method you used and whether you are happy with it. How does it look? Has it given you problems? Is there enough storage space? Questions such as those...
     
  2. Dagless macrumors Core

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    M3 Perfect SD and PassCard 3. Apparently it's the ultimate combination.
     
  3. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I'd highly recommend an M3 and the PassKey that comes with it. Though really I only used the PassKey to flash my firmware so I wouldn't need one anymore :D

    EDIT: They call the 3rd one PassCard instead of PassKey, right? PassKey 2 had a weak build quality, but #3 is so much smaller it doesn't even stick out anymore so it looks perfect.

    The CF version has basicly near-100% compatability with everything, but it also sticks out quite a bit on the regular DS and sticks out by a county mile on the DS Lite. The SD version works with everything except homebrew specificly designed to use the CF card as a hard drive.

    If I were buying a new one, I'd get the SD card version, the Slim one. For Lite owners, get the M3 SD Lite- it's so small it doesn't stick out of the Lite. I already have an M3 Perfect CF though.
     
  4. GonzoRob macrumors 6502

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    i use a passcard 3 (for the NDS slot - doesnt stick out) and the new G6 lite 4 Gigbit 512 mb (for the gba slot - also doesnt stick out and out case can be changed to match your chell colour)
    Basically, my black DS looks totally normal, and can run homebrew!
    Your battery life will be about one third less (passcard and GBA cart drain life - they all do) bit it's worth it

    I bought it all to run dsquake when it's released :D


    cheers
    R
     
  5. cartoonfox macrumors regular

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    All this talk completley baffle's me...

    Is it legal?
    And are there any screenshots of Homebrew games?
    And can it at all wreck or damage my DS (or my soon-to-be DS Lite)?

    Peace
     
  6. Dagless macrumors Core

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    homebrew is legal yes, so long as you have the original Doom or Quake WADS, or ripped the roms from your own carts etc. but actual homebrew itself is totally legal. Somebody should tell that to Sony.
     
  7. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Homebrew is 100% legal.

    Games like DsDoom and DsQuake are not pirated- they're re-written by homebrew authors and just play like the originals.

    Running roms is legal only if you dumped the rom yourself and still own the original cartridge and did not break any encryption in the process of dumping the rom (in that case, the rom counts as a legal backup).

    Running downloaded roms is illegal.


    Running homebrew cannot damage your DS Lite except under certain circumstances. IIRC, there were a couple PassKey 2s that shipped with badly soldered pins that shorted out some DS's (I've heard only two accounts of this happening, out of perhaps a dozen boards I've searched), but Nintendo replaced them if you didn't tell them what caused it.

    There are only two real ways other than defective hardware to damage your DS.

    A) The bricker trojan. It claims to be either porn or a rom loader (NEVER download romloader.nds), and wipes your DS's firmware. Part of the DS's firmware is write protected though...If your DS has FlashMe installed, you can use it's recovery functions. If you're informed on it, you have nothing to worry about. I've never run across it, most sites have it removed, and if you're not looking for hentai/porn/roms you'll never find it (the author was trying to hit rom pirates and hentai downloaders).

    B) FlashMe. FlashMe is a firmware patch for the DS that removes the Health and Safety Warning screen and allows the DS to boot from the bottom slot in DS mode WITHOUT the use of a PassKey. You need a PassKey to install it though in the first place. And since the firmware is partially write protected, you need to open up the back of the DS and short the SL1's while the firmware patch is installing to let it write.

    The first 100 blocks it writes into the firmware is recovery software letting you reinstall the old firmware by loading it on a cartridge and booting while holding down a button combo.

    The downside? If you turn your DS off while it's overwriting the firmware, your DS is a brick. If it finished writing the first 100 blocks, you can recover it. If it didn't, you're stuck. So if you install FlashMe, don't turn the power off, and HOLD THE BATTERY IN (because you disassembled the back).






    So without turning the power off during an optional firmware hack, receiving rare faulty hardware, or downloading a trojan, there's no other way to break your DS via software. Homebrew is safe.
     
  8. beloved84 macrumors regular

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    has anybody brew'd an instant messengering program that supports AIM yet?
     
  9. greatdevourer macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, it's called (imaginatively enough) DS AIM
     
  10. beloved84 macrumors regular

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    where can i dl it?
     
  11. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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  12. Dagless macrumors Core

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    As I just experienced :p
    My M3 can't arrive any quicker :) I'm trying to shrink down my Alan Partridge collection for the GBA screen. gonna be great.
     
  13. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    I have never used homebrew on the DS...how is it? any good stuff?






    Bless
     
  14. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    I've been trying to find a way to run Chrono Trigger on my DS. What's the best place to buy an M3 and PassCard?
     
  15. Dagless macrumors Core

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    I've no idea, it's just a great opportunity to play vintage GB games on the Micro and DS. That really appeals to me. Portable video? hmm. I've yet to find a perfect device for that (Pocket PC too slow, PSP... filenames? folders? codecs? not full resolution?). I hope it works well on the Micro or DS Lite but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  16. greatdevourer macrumors 68000

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    It's somewhere on here - nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk
     
  17. beloved84 macrumors regular

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    thanks.

    where is the best place to buy a m3 and passcard?
     
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  19. beloved84 macrumors regular

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    which one is better the one that takes the mini sd or the regular sd? i heard that the mini sd has its own battery? is that true?
     
  20. SteveRichardson macrumors regular

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    I am a proud user of an M3 CF in my DS Lite.

    So what if it sticks out about 3/4 the width of the lite? It's a statement.


    But really, it doesn't hamper gameplay at all.
     
  21. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Depends where you're from. In the UK i got an M3 SD Perfect and SuperKey for a savvy £60. though the full PassCard 3 (same as a SuperKey but generally seen as the ultimate combination with M3) cost £70 so you save a nice tenner. that would pay for 1/3 of a 2gb SD card.

    Aye, the M3 pokes out a fair bit on the Lite. but not too bad. I've actually found it quite useful for Brain Training as it gives you something to hold on to. I've always kept a GBA cart in there for better grip.
     
  22. SteveRichardson macrumors regular

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    Okay so I have a question.

    (I do not promote d/l'ing roms blah blah blah)

    I have a Ridata 2GB CF card in my M3...When I first set everything up, the GBA Roms worked great, but the DS games didn't work. I then figured out what I was doing wrong (with the DS Roms) in the Game Manager software (had target directory set incorrectly). My DS Roms now work perfectly, but the GBA games won't load at all. I've created their gamesave .dat files and set them pressing the select button, but the loader comes up and remains at 0000000kb when booted from GBA, and the red bar loader shows that the loading is complete, but still remains on the screen (and game never starts) when booted in DS.

    I then took my old 128 SanDisk CF card and loaded a couple GBA roms via drag and drop, and they work perfectly. I have yet to test if they will run after putting in DS Roms, but I would much rather just fix the problem (if possible) with my 2GB card, because...it has 2GBs.

    Anyone have any suggestions? I'm sick of the engrish on the m3 website and there are literally no instructions in the packaging.

    thanks!

    ..i hope this post makes sense...
     
  23. Dagless macrumors Core

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    http://m3-forum.com, is a very good site.

    Are you sure you are 'burning' the GBA games under Write GBA, and not Write NDS? Just that was a problem I originally had... though I was just copying the .GBA or .NDS game too the memory card directly.

    and yea you can absolutely do it without being a pirate. I've got nearly all my GBA carts stored onto a 512mb memory card and I've been messing about with DS download demos.
     
  24. SteveRichardson macrumors regular

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    It's hard to say what I was actually doing. I think I was dragging the NDS and GBA ROMS into the CF card under folders labeled NDS and GBA, respectively. I was then patching (or at least I thought I was patching) the ROMS that were already on the card by selecting the ROM in the CF throught the program and "writing it." I really didn't grasp the concept of "burning" the rom to the CF by selecting it in the program from the computer's hard drive and selecting the folder on the CF as the target.

    When I realized I was going about everything wrong (although the GBA games worked), I reformatted the CF card and updated the firmware again. Then I started over using the correct method. This made my NDS Roms work perfectly, but my GBA roms never load up. I've waded through those m3-forums, but I can't find anyone who has the same problem as me. When I get home from work tonight I think I'll start over completely and try to add the GBA Roms manually. We'll see what happens... :rolleyes:


    EDIT: I just realized what you meant in your comment. I actually was actually using "Write GBA" and "Write NDS" correctly. As far as i know... haha thanks, though...

    and yes, I have the carts for the games I have in Rom form.
     
  25. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    The way I do it (I have a cable to rip GBA roms, and there is software for the M3 to use it to rip NDS roms, so they are legal backups) is to have the roms on my hard drive, open the M3 software, navigate to the, say, GBA folder on the CF card, choose Write GBA, choose the rom, choose the settings, and hit okay.

    It creates the gamesave files automatically and patches the rom and sticks it on there.


    Dragging and dropping the roms works and they're playable, but they don't save properly.

    Oh hey, Jimmi, I forgot when I was talking to you earlier. You may have figured it out on your own though. The M3 software has NES, SMS, and classic GameBoy emulators built in...hit Write GBA and choose an NES file and it'll bind a GBA emulator to it and save it as a .gba file and write it. That's the best way to put NES games on there- you said your friend had dumped a few for you.
     

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