DSL Or Cable? And which isp?

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  1. applemacdude macrumors 68040

    applemacdude

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    I live in oakland california, and want to know what is better cable or dsl? and which isp i should choose?
     
  2. wdlove macrumors P6

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    I have DSL with Earthlink, they have great service. The only problem is the price of $49.95 per month. IT has always been very helpful. In almost 2 years of service only had one evening of down time. They thought that it was something with Covad or Verizon.
     
  3. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I just found out that comcast is doing a special on cable internet, 19.99 until feb 2004 but i have to rent the modem for 3 dollars or buy it for 139 dollars...can i buy my own modem for it?
     
  4. tazo macrumors 68040

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    If you can get comcast cable get it! they just raised their download speeds to 3megabit, and I have never had any problems with installation or their service being down.....unlike verizon dsl which is apparently down every other day...

    go with comcast!
     
  5. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    From what I've heard from various friends, DSL is only good if you are within 5000 feet or so of the nearest switching station. They run the service out to around 15,000 feet though, and it gets pretty slow past the 5000 foot mark.

    Personally I like my cable connection. Fast, cheap, no client program that dials you in. I wish I could get Comcast though, I hear they have a dial-up number for cable users on the road.
     
  6. phillymjs macrumors regular

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    Depends

    If you just want the ability to send e-mail and view web pages, cable might be ok for you. If you want to do more, like host servers, etc, I'd go with DSL.

    I used to have a cable modem from Comcast, and it sucked. There were frequent outages, their mailservers were down more often than they were up, and their tech support people were clueless-- you could hear their brains disconnect when I'd say the magic words: "There is no Start menu, I have a Mac"

    Over two years ago, I ditched Comcast for DSL from Speakeasy, and I've never looked back. I now have my own domain, and I run my own servers right out of my house. Speakeasy will even set the rDNS for your IPs so mailservers that check it as an anti-spam measure won't reject your mail. Sure, I pay $100 per month for their service, but it's worth it to me. I've got 1.5Mbps down/384Kbps up, and three static IPs. They sell me the bandwidth and let me use it for what I want-- pretty much their only restriction is "No porn servers, please."

    There's been one six-hour outage (on a Sunday evening) since I've had DSL, and their support people were wonderful when I called-- they actually understood that I have a functional brain and know how to troubleshoot my own systems and trace a problem's origin outside of my LAN.

    Luckily, my employer pays $50 of my broadband bill every month, so I effectively am still paying what I paid Comcast, who gave me far inferior service.

    ~Philly
     
  7. trebblekicked macrumors 6502a

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    i've had the exact opposite experience. had verizon for over a year and spent less than one day down. meanwhile, the comcast i had installed three weeks down has been offline for over a week. the tech was here today, and we'll see how long it holds up.

    for those few moments when it was up, the speed was faster than DSL.
     
  8. kaltsasa macrumors 6502a

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    DSL is usually slower, however you have "dedicated bandwidth". Usually a faster upstream too. DSL is slightly more secure due to the fact that its not a shared connection like a cable connection. But since your probebly on a mac, it doesn't matter that much. And anyone with half a brain can configure Windows so that it doesn't share your HD, or just throw a cheap router on it and your good to go, all protected. DSL providers will try to tell you that on cable, if everyone is using their connections alot, you may experience some slowdown due to the shared connection. In reality the slowdown is still usually faster than DSL. I have a worthless 512kbit dsl connection for $50. I am transfering to a different school next year where i can get a 1.5 mbit cable connection for 39.95. I've been up a few times to visit. This connection generaly gets 800-1000 kbit /s still almost double the speed of my DSL at half the cost. In this day and age, unless you really need the dedicated BW and would like the extra security of DSL. Go with cable if at all possible. Though in some areas, the choice is already made for you since one or the other is all thats avalable.
     
  9. ColoJohnBoy macrumors 65816

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    Beware of Comcast - not only are there frequent outages here, but it gives inconsistent speed, spotty e-mail service, poor upload speed, and horrible customer service. The people I talk to are often downright rude. And yes, they just doubled their speeds to 3 Mbps, but that's only in 14 very minor markets for the time being - no word yet on when it will rollout nationwide. Find another alternative. There are usually smaller cable internet providers around town if you look for them. There's one here in Denver, that for the same price as I pay Comcast, provides bi-directional 10 Mbps service. Unfortunately, I don't live in the service area. Anyway, stick to Cable if you can, but find a Comcast-alternative.

    The funny thing is, in spite of all their problems, Comcast is still better than QwestMSN DSL......
     
  10. Powerbook G5 macrumors 68040

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    The DSL network here at the school is more unreliable than AOL dialup, so from my experience with two different cable modem ISPs and this DSL and my friend's DSL (which never got faster than 30 KB/s), I'd go with cable. It's usually cheaper by about $5-10 a month, too.
     
  11. Flowbee macrumors 68030

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    I live in Alameda and was getting very slow DSL speeds. Switched to Comcast 5 months ago and have been flying on the internet ever since. Only one afternoon of downtime. I don't especially care for their customer service, but I haven't had to talk with them since signing up, either.

    BTW - Comcast has said they will be increasing download speeds to 3mbps for the 'majority' of its customers nationwide by the end of the year.

    http://news.com.com/2100-1034-5085725.html
     
  12. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    It said i could buy my own modem, should i do it? is tehre any other modems for less than 139 dollars? is teh 26.99 yahoo dsl good?
     
  13. CMillerERAU macrumors regular

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    My parrents got SBCYahoo DSL and its been a great service. When they first got it there was intermitttant outtages but that turned out to be a bad junction box in front of our house. They repaired it free of charge and its been great ever since. I think they're paying $35/mo. for the standard service, its way overpowered for them but I found it a very good service even for the pros. Also they gave us the modem for free with the option to upgrade to a wireless model for $100.
     
  14. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    On their website it says that its capped at 1.5....
     
  15. Flowbee macrumors 68030

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  16. eclipse525 macrumors 6502a

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    I don't believe "Cablevision" is on the west coast but I believe they are up to 3mbps from what I understand. I haven't done a test but can someone verify this and post your result. Also, I believe "Cablevision" was also the first to up the speed.

    I love "Cablevision" and have had only one problem with them but it wasn't a big deal. My brother has VerizonDSL and likes it but then again he does't really use the internet as intenstly as some of us. He's a simple eMail and browser kind a guy.


    ~e
     
  17. Ramsos macrumors regular

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    I also live in Oakland and I have SBC Yahoo DSL and it's great, it comes with a free speedstream modem and its very reliable and fast. I use it with my AE base station and could not be happier. I wish I could get the service for $26,99 a month for a year, I'm paying 50 bucks a month plus 25 bucks a month for a phone line I only use for my DSL and Fax machine. So I really pay about 76 bucks a month, oh well I will never go back to AOhelL. Good luck.-Ram. :cool:
     
  18. 1macker1 macrumors 65816

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    1.5M for $45/per month

    I have DSL and it's always fast. If everyone in your neighborhood has cable, then you all have to share bandwidth, thus you might see some slower speeds.

    I have a friend that lives in Cali, and she says they they offer fiber optics to residents for $100 bucks a month.
     
  19. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Well im not made of money abd would like it to be cheap....so its either the 26.99 SBC DSL or the 19.99 for four months Comcast...42.99 regular...
     
  20. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    OK SBC Yahoo! isnt available in my area. comcast does, comcast wins. i would like to have a wireless modem? where can i find one? one cheaper than140 dollars thanks

    sorry for double post
     
  21. eclipse525 macrumors 6502a

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    Here's something funny......I'm based in NY and I use Cablevision as my provider. I just did a bandwith test at <http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/> and when I did it with IE I got a result of 1.3 and when I quit out and did it with Safari I got a result of 1.5. What gives? Is there any reason for this oddity? Trust me it wasn't more than a few secs inbetween test. Hmmmm......


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  22. applemacdude thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Apparently a lot of things affect bandwidth. Run the test twice with the same browser and you'll get different results. As long as the numbers generally cluster together you should be all good.
     
  24. ibookin' macrumors 65816

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    Cable with Adelphia. Line is rated 2000Kbps up/256Kbps down and performs as such, but it is sometimes higher (around 300-400KB/s downloads).

    Don't use C|Net's test, as it is unreliable. It quotes my line as being 1300Kbps or so, which my file download speeds do not agree with. Use DSLReports tests. They are much more reliable.

    http://www.dslreports.com/stest
     
  25. MattG macrumors 68040

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    Either are good, however if Comcast is your cable provider, I would recommend you steer clear of it. Comcast is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE ISP. I know from experience; my mother used to work there. The stories...

    We used to have their service since it was free for us, and we had nothing but problems. I'd pay double what I pay now for DSL if it meant being able to steer clear of Comcast.
     

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