Dungeon Siege sans CD

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  1. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus

    SilentPanda

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    The only games I have for my Mac are Warcraft III and Dungeon Siege (just picked it up Friday for $20 at Best Buy!). I can get Warcraft III to work without the CD by creating a disc image and mounting it when needed. For some reason this doesn't seem to work with Dungeon Siege. I have tried using Disc Utility in Panther and also using Toast 5 in Panther but neither seems to work. Has anybody had any luck? I haven't found any no CD patches and I'm not really keen on using them.

    In Disc Utility I made a DVD/CD Image with the same name as disc 2 of dungeon siege. Similar thing in Toast 5.

    Mainly I want to make the disc image so I don't have to find the CD, nor will I have to waste battery on spinning the drive (although Dungeon Siege doesn't seem to spin the drive that much).

    Also does anybody know of an Apple Script that could mount a disc image then launch an application? I can't seem to write one to save my life (although if I was trying to save my life I might try a lot harder). Thanks!
     
  2. lynnpye macrumors member

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    Re: Dungeon Siege sans CD

    Hi SilentPanda,

    I had a similar problem with MoO3. I tried the cdrecord package from Fink (both the stable and unstable versions) as well as the DiskUtility under Panther.

    Anyway, I tried Toast 6 Titanium and created a Toast image. Then I use Toast 6 to mount the image. Oddly it creates two images on my desktop and they appear identical. Anyway, I can launch MoO3 (Masters of Orion 3) diskless, making it easier to travel with my PowerBook and not have to bring CD's with me.

    I have a copy of Dungeon Siege, but not installed (I had to blow away and reinstall Panther fresh, losing my apps in the process). I'll give it a shot and let you know how it turns out.

    Regards,

    Lynn
     
  3. neoelectronaut macrumors 68020

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    I tried to play almost all my games (all 6 of them) using the disk image method, and only one worked (NOLF) the rest, well, asked for a CD not matter what I did.
     
  4. SilentPanda thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    I actually just e-mailed MacSoft to see if they'd tell me. I really really doubt they will but... who knows... at worst they'll sue me for trying to circumvent copy protection... :)
     
  5. lynnpye macrumors member

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    FYI, I reinstalled DS last night and tried Disk Utility. I'm running Panther 10.3.2. No luck. So then I tried the Toast 6 approach. Recall that with MoO3, DU failed but Toast 6 worked. Well, it didn't work for DS. So apparently the protection scheme DS is using is different from that used by MoO3.

    I have not yet attempted to use readcd from the cdrecord package, though I expect it won't help much either since from what I gather it also relies on the IOServices from Apple, which I suspect T6 and DU do as well.
     
  6. SilentPanda thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    Thanks for giving it a try (especially with Toast 6)... I was thinking about upgrading just to see if it'd work but now I don't have to. I'll post in this thread if I find out anything.
     
  7. lynnpye macrumors member

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    Further poking...SUCCESS!

    Okay, here's an update. I'm playing around with a droplet to allow me to mount .toast files without having to actually start Toast. I find that there is a command line utility called ToastImageMounter in the Toast.app package. After playing around a bit I finally tried mounting the Dungeon Siege toast image with the -hybrid flag via this command line utility.

    After doing so, I was able to run DS with no errors about not having provided the CD. So then I used Finder to eject. I noticed, however, that the image did not actually unmount properly. The disk is actually multi session and the first session didn't unmount, so I had to use hdiutil to eject it.

    Furthermore, before any of this worked, I think I ended up installing their kernel extension via the TDIXSupport command line utility, also in the Toast package.

    So, to summarize, through a non obvious set of command line passes, it is possible to capture a Toast image of the DS disk and mount it enabling you to play DS diskless.

    If you want the actual details, email me at lynn AT-symbol pyehouse DOT com.
     
  8. SilentPanda thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    I managed to get this working just fine with Toast 5.2 after the above posters instructions for Toast 6 (with minors changes). If anybody needs assistance please feel free to e-mail me (my e-mail is in my profile). Or if it's okay with the mods we could post them here too. All it really is is instructions on how to mount a hybrid image.
     
  9. Frohickey macrumors 6502a

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    CD copy protection is one of my biggest pet peeves for playing games and such.

    CDs tend to be slower than the hard drive, plus, if you are playing on a laptop, thats an extra draw of power.
     

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