DVD+R+RW - soon to Mac?

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  1. IEatApples macrumors 6502a

    IEatApples

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    Any rumors about a possible upgrade to the great :) Superdrive?

    And a personal opinion: I think that the Powerbook and iBook should be of greatest importance to Apple, since this area is growing more and more popular.

    Another note: How about iText/iWrite or something?



    :) <I like apples of all flavours> :)
     
  2. zarathustra macrumors 6502a

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    I am currently using a TDK DVD-RW, DVD+RW and CDRW drive in my DP mirror drive G4. It writes all the popular disk formats out there. And it cost me around $100. I have written an iDVD project to DVD+R which did not play in my DVD player but fine on the Mac. The same project on DVD-R works fine in the DVD player, so I am not a big fan of DVD+R except that the media is cheap.

    Anywho, if you are interested in putting an unsupported drive in your mac, visit the fine folks at xlr8yourmac.com
     
  3. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

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    I have good news for you - most of the newer SuperDrives have the necessary hardware support for DVD plus media, and the support is enabled in Mac OS X 10.3. Apple just doesn't tell us that their SuperDrives can handle DVD-RW, DVD+R and DVD+RW just as well as DVD-R.
     
  4. MattG macrumors 68040

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    It's not the drives that don't support it, it's the software. My G5 has a Pioneer DVR-106 in it, which is compatible with -R and +R. You can't use +R media with the iLife software or with OS X's burning software, but as I recall, it works fine with Roxio Toast.
     
  5. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

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    Is it just me, or have I heard scattered reports here that some people have had success burning +R and +RW using the built-in OS X burning software?
     
  6. IEatApples thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    :confused: You mean I can burn CD+R+RW & DVD+R+RW? :confused: ?
    Why would'nt Apple talk about this?
     
  7. MattG macrumors 68040

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    Apple is trying to be standards compliant, and +R formats aren't as widely compatible as -R formats. The -R formats can play in 99% of DVD players, even most older ones. With +R, that isn't so. For example we've got older DVD drives in some of the Dells here at school, that will play -R's but not +R's.

    Maybe there's a firmware hack available or something? I don't know...I know I've never been able to. OS X just spits out the discs before they can even mount on the desktop.
     
  8. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

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    Until Apple updates their iApps to support these formats, Apple won't promote them. Simple as that.
     
  9. daveL macrumors 68020

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    I have a rev b PM G5 with a Pioneer DVR-107D (the original Apple drive). OS X Disk Utility reports the following:

    Capabilities : CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW

    drutil info command returns:

    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D 1.20

    Interconnect: ATAPI
    SupportLevel: Apple Shipping
    Cache: 2000k
    CD-Write: -R, -RW, BUFE, CDText, Test, IndexPts, ISRC
    DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, BUFE, Test
    Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO

    I've burned +r/w successfully with Disk Utility.

    At this point (10.3.6), I think it's a matter of how old your Apple Superdrive is.

    Apple doesn't tend to put out firmware updates for their drives. Especially if you have a Pioneer drive, you might want to look into FlashIt_Kit_2:

    http://homepage.mac.com/asaxton/FlashIt_Kit_2.0.zip

    And this MR forum topic:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-95700
     
  10. daveL macrumors 68020

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    Sorry, I meant to add that the iLife apps in 10.3.6 have DVD+R DL support, although I haven't tested this myself (don't have a DL burner).
     
  11. James L macrumors 6502a

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    As above... I have a 1.5Ghz PB. It burns DVD+R in the finder no problem, and I use them all the time for data DVD's.

    iDVD, however, is crippled so DVD+R won't work for media DVD's. The problem, as mentioned above, is not the hardware in newer Macs... it is software driven.

    If you use Disc Utility you can see a list of all the different DVD media that is recognized in the finder. It is quite extensive.

    Cheers,

    James
     
  12. daveL macrumors 68020

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    I wasn't aware that iDVD didn't support +r/w, even though Finder does. I guess it's due to the -r/w format having better compatibility with older standalone DVD players. Apple doesn't want users think it's iDVD's fault when the media doesn't play.

    Anyway, you could author the DVD using Sizzle. I suppose that would work, although I haven't tried it.
     

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