eBay shill bidding suspension?

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  1. macrumors 6502a

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    Hi,

    I don't really know what the policy is with this, so I thought I'd ask here.
    If an eBay user is suspended for the first time for shill bidding do they get their account back after 7 days if they send a declaration? Anyone had this experience, because this has happened to a friend of mine and he is confused with whether he will or will not get his account back, this is the first time it has happened to him and he is a good user, except for this lapse.

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. TMA
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    I'm curious - What is 'shill bidding' ?
     
  3. thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    shill bidding is eBay's term for using another account related to yourself to artificially inflate the items auction price.
     
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    WildCowboy

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    Shill Bidding

    Edit: I believe first-time offenders are hit with a 30-day suspension. I don't know if there's any way to shorten it.
     
  5. thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, my friend said he'd read that, but I was wondering if anyone had any personal experiences? And did they get their account back?

    Thanks
     
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    WildCowboy

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    Here we go...found the applicable info. Yes, it's a 30-day suspension for first-time offenders. As long as that's the case, your friend's account will be reactivated after the suspension.
     
  7. macrumors member

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    Or if u dunt wanna bother with all the forms to fill out, just make a new account.
     
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    WildCowboy

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    If you get caught doing that, you're banned...probably not worth the risk.
     
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    Heh, I've done this "shill bidding" with a friend a long time ago. Basically I'd bid on his item until my bid and the highest bidder's bid are equal (meaning he beat me, but one more notch from me and I'd beat him), and then I'll stop. It inflates the price. Evil, but it works :D

    I don't do that anymore though.
     
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    Lifetime would be good. First offence, no appeal. Ban the IP address, phone number and charge card too.

    I have had it up to here with eBay cheats, scammers, sellers misrepresenting their products, pirates selling burned copies of software, music, get rich quick instructions, get an iPod free instructions, etc.
     
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    WildCowboy

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    Have you contacted the bidder whose final price you inflated and offered him a refund of the amount he overpaid?
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    hey I saw your concern about "shill bidding", what happened to your friend afterward? did he get his account back? how long was the suspension?


    thanks
     
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    Banned for life is my opinion. It is frustrating to see this in action.
     
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    I must say I've had nothing but good, straight deals on eBay, over 70 of them.
     
  15. macrumors newbie

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    EBay Shill Bidding

    This is EBay's most serious problem. Buyers have no assurance that other bids are real.

    I think it is impossible for Ebay to prove shill bidding since they don't know when two real people (but not using the same credit cards or SS#) are conspiring together.

    Think about it. The entire auction process can be a sham for buyers. This is Ebay's achilles heel since there is no way to prove shill bids except to observe patterns over the long run of bidders working together. I believe this is why EBay now hides the bidder names from the view of other bidders.

    If this gets out, and if buyers understand the problem, it will become clear that Ebay is only automating the process of finding out the maximum price buyers will pay for an item. -- End of Ebay.
     

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