EDU Discount for former student?...

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by slick316, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. slick316 macrumors 6502

    Sep 28, 2005
    How does the EDU discount work? My friend wants to convert to Apple, and he noticed the student discount. He graduated from a University this May that offers the EDU discount. I know, I know, its not "ethical", but since he still has his student ID, can he walk into an Apple Store and walk out with a new iMac at the EDU price?
    I told him he's going to get arrested and get the chair, didn't scare him for some reason :/
  2. TheMonarch macrumors 65816


    May 6, 2005
    Bay Area
    Well, the system is setup is for students and teachers, if he isn't either, then he can't get a discount. But I will tell you that they logged my info when I bought my PB.
  3. slick316 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 28, 2005
    I figured that its not like going to the movie theater where they just want to see an ID. I don't think its a good thing to do, but he asked me to look into it.
    I think I'll tell him to go ahead and do it, teach him a lesson :)
  4. vashim66 macrumors member

    Oct 25, 2003
    If his student ID doesn't have an expiration date you're all set! Or just order from the apple online store.

    Of course this is all unethical if he isn't a student anymore....but Apple doesn't make it hard at all for non-students to get the discount
  5. TheMonarch macrumors 65816


    May 6, 2005
    Bay Area

    I wouldn't encourage him or anyone to cheat the system. Otherwise Apple will either make it extremely complicated and annoying (Verifying every single purchase) or get rid of the discount all together, which hits the people who actually deserve it. Plus Apple can ask you to send them a fax verifying status...
  6. bob909bob macrumors member

    Oct 20, 2005
    Order it from the online store. Who cares about ethics.
  7. slick316 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 28, 2005
    He's gonna buy it locally, from the Apple Store. He doesn't like credit cards and he has cash from some guns he sold.
    So they don't check anything if you order it online? I can see how people can cheat the system, if its been this way for a while, I would assume Apple really doesn't care. If they really didn't want people to exploit the system, they would do something for verification online, or make the discount available at Apple Stores only, not online.
  8. Verto macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2005
    Denton, TX
    This is such ********. If you (your friend) want to cheat Apple by taking advantage of a program you (your friend) are not entitled to, do so without deluding yourself into believing it is not wrong, or that Apple doesn't care. Maybe they realize that the Apple Store Online is the only option many students have, and are trying to make the purchase a smooth process. Maybe they expect a bit of class and respect from their customers.
  9. Dr. Dastardly macrumors 65816

    Dr. Dastardly

    Jun 26, 2004
    I live in a giant bucket!
    Pretty much if you order from the online store they take your word for it. Though a select few get "audited" and they check to make sure you are activally enrolled in the school and give you a call.
    I have heard (but cant say for certain) that if you go to the actual brick and morter store they DO make a copy of your id but I think it ends there.
    So if you dont think you have a chance of receiving a call then its just a matter of ethics like stated before...
    Doesn't sound like the type to have that issue.
  10. Koodauw macrumors 68040


    Nov 17, 2003
    I heart you n00b.
  11. Chacala_Nayarit macrumors 6502


    Oct 6, 2005
    Lakewood, Washington
    Pay online to avoid paying taxes in your state! Now that's screwing the system that screws you! :D

    Example: if my mom goes to the Apple Store in Seattle and buys an iMac 20" she is going to pay damn near 200.00 in taxes. I showed her how easy it was online. :)
  12. paulypants macrumors 6502a


    Jun 17, 2003
    Buffalo, NY
    A VERY low percentage of students purchase through the online edu store because, amazingly, they don't know about it...
  13. quackattack macrumors 6502a


    Aug 13, 2004
    Boise, ID
    Apple is really good at charging sales tax online. I think they always add on the tax of the state they ship to.

    I even get charged sales tax on iTunes song purchases!
  14. NewbieNerd macrumors 6502a


    Sep 22, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Amen brother. Morality and ethics are too sorely missed these days. :(
  15. desenso macrumors 6502a


    May 25, 2005
    Chances are your friend, who graduated recently, still knows a few people who are still enrolled, and aren't mac users. Ask one of them to buy it - it deprives them of the right to buy another (for a year) and therefore, you are only partially "cheating" the system, if at all.
  16. solvs macrumors 603


    Jun 25, 2002
    LaLaLand, CA
    I do in WA, but I wouldn't in CA. Only some states have tax on iTunes. All of them have taxes for the online store if your state has tax. You're in OR though, you shouldn't be paying any taxes.

    Oh, and tell your friend to take a pottery class or something. That'll ease his guilt if he uses the discount.
  17. JMT529 macrumors member

    Jun 28, 2004
    At my former school, it wouldnt be possible for a non-student to get the discount.
  18. SteveMcQ macrumors member

    Sep 5, 2005
    Would anyone foresee a problem (ethically or technically) considering I'm applying for school this upcoming semester (I'm off this semester).

    I do have a friend in class now, would it look odd for me to order it using my credit card and send in her info should they ask for confirmation?

    I'd rather just order it under my name, but if me not being a student this semester proves a problem, I guess I'll have to find a way to solve it.
  19. quackattack macrumors 6502a


    Aug 13, 2004
    Boise, ID
    Oops, was in Oregon. I need to change my profile. I'm in Idaho now.

    It is interesting even when I was living in OR, I got charged tax because the billing address of my credit card was in ID.
  20. RBMaraman macrumors 65816


    Jul 25, 2002
    Prospect, KY
    Original poster:

    Ignore all other posts in this thread, except mine.

    In early August, I decided to get a new PowerBook. I had a couple questions, so I called Apple. While on the phone, the woman asked me why I was buying a new computer. I told her I had just graduated from college in May and wanted a new portable to replace my 4-year-old iBook. She then replied, "It's wonderful that Apple's student discount program continues up to six months after you graduate, isn't it?" My reply: "What?!" "Yes, you can still use the student discount up to six months after your graduation date. Consider it a graduation gift from us."

    Tell your friend to order.
  21. topgunn macrumors 65816


    Nov 5, 2004
    I was told the same thing back in 2002.
  22. bob909bob macrumors member

    Oct 20, 2005
  23. juicedus macrumors member

    Nov 29, 2004
    in a van down by the river
    What if he still receives e-mails from the college; like mass e-mails. I gradated in May as well but every-time the college sends out a mass e-mail to seniors or anyone in engineering I still get them. I'd say if they still have you on record in the system, go for it.
  24. Sdashiki macrumors 68040


    Aug 11, 2005
    Behind the lens
    Ok check this scenario:

    My dad is a high school teacher, and a complete newb when it comes to purchasing a new mac, he dropped of apples radar at about the LCIII.

    So on my last trip a couple of months ago to see him, we decided to buy him a 17" iMac. He wanted it NOW and not from online, so we went to an apple store a few towns over.

    Worked it all out and asked for the education discount, him being a teacher and all. But they wanted a way to confirm that, but how? He isnt part of the teachers union and even if he was, he wouldnt carry the stupid card. Soooo I used my student ID and got the edu discount "for him". I graduated 18 months ago.

    Was this wrong? I doubt it. But in essence, the same as what is proposed by others here, mine was just a special exception.
  25. slick316 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 28, 2005
    Thanks for that info, I'll let him know so he can add to his student loan debts, lol. I guess this is to allow those that graduate a chance at an Apple now that they might have a job and steady income.
    I think he's going to get the new 20" iMac G5 and a BT Keyboard and Mouse.
    Now, to upset some more people here, would it be unethical for me to have him buy me an iSight so that we can video chat with each other :)

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