Eminem's Publisher Sues Apple for Unauthorized Music Sales

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    I'd have thought Universal would have owned the publishing rights as they are his label.
     
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    I think it says as much. Poor, poor artists...all that talent and no sense to run their business. :( :p
     
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    I don't understand this.

    "Hi, we're going to give you lots of money to sell your product in shop A and B instead of just shop B."

    "No"

    "Sorry, what now?"

    :rolleyes:
     
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    it seems pretty stupid but
    it's mostly because of
    translation: greed. <- shocker. the music industry is full of arguments over who is owed what.

    I thought this was odd though:
    Yes it was aired. I had seen it several times. :confused:
     
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    Eminem's Publisher Sues Apple for Unauthorized Music Sales

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    Detroit News reports that Eminem's music publisher has filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against Apple for unauthorized music sales through the iTunes Store.

    According to the article, the main issue appears to be a contractual one, questioning the right of record labels to also sell recording artist's music digitally as well as on CD.
    Apple sells individual songs for 99 cents and gives 70 cents back to the recording label (in this case, Universal). Out of that $.70, Universal pays about 9.1 cents to the music publisher. Eminem's music publisher states that they have never authorized Universal to allow the downloads and have demanded that Apple cease and desist online distribution of their music. Apple has reportedly refused.


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    The whole music industry makes less and less sense every day.
     
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    Wow, this clown really loves to get into the news by taking on Apple.

    Sounds like someone is suffering from a serious case of hasbeenitis...

    Note to music publishers: online sales are the future of music. Period. Deal with it.
     
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    Are you thinking of the one Eminem is actually in or the one that just featured the song "Lose Yourself"? I know I've seen both but I'm not sure if the one in question was aired on television or if I just saw it online.
     
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    Here's what I don't get. Why is Eminem suing Apple? He should be suing Universal if they're reselling to channels outside of their agreement with the artist / publisher.
     
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    A publicity stunt, I would guess. Apple likes getting sued, anyway, right?
     
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    ummmm........

    Apple makes more money then me so I'm gonna sue them and try to get some...yay for me the dead white rapper.:confused:
     
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    Why wouldn't he be complaining to Universal? Apple has an agreement with the label, not the artist.
     
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    Exactly, I'm sure the courts will see it that way too.

    What a doofus.
     
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    So they didn't know that his music was being sold on iTunes until recently?
     
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    Most times the label owns the recordings of the music (even though the artist pays for them... don't get me started!), but the publishing stays, at least in part, with the artist.
    I don't think m&m has a case as his label is authorized to sell and distribute the recordings that they own (or are at least licensed to sell/distribute).
    Contracts I've seen include the right to exploit the works created on any support in use now or in the future.
    Now sync rights are different...:D
     
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    ummmm, so they're suing Apple why? take it up w/ your label and shut the f%$# up, eminem. at least someone is buying your music.
     
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    Well, looks like they demanded Apple stop selling his music and they said no. So lawsuit is the next step I guess.

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    Um... he's not, read the title... His Record label is trying to get around the original contract with the publisher. The contract probably had no "digital" reference in it, as emininem came out before mp3s really became main stream, and WAAAAY before iTunes was even thought of.

    Steal This Film Got it completely right about music. Through the ages musicians have only made money by performing live, the recording industry is a brand new invention in the relative history of music. The record industry is saying the same things about digital downloads that they said about the casette tape or the movie indusrty about the vcr. What happened? Did people stop buying music and start recording HBO off the tv? No, not really. And then what happens? CDs and CD burners come out and the industry cries wolf about the same issues again, and again they cry about digital and and and.

    The publisher probably has a very valid "legal" argument, this has nothing to do with eminem losing money. The publisher is loosing money, NOT the record label or eminem. IF Eminem's label had not been paying the publisher, which doesn't publish much anymore, I'd understand the argument. But the label is paying the publisher, the problem is the terms are not in any contract, they're paying arcording to the CD deals. WHich doesn't make sense, the publisher isn't doing anything, yet theyre complaining about getting a check. The publisher wants CD ONLY distribution, thats why they're suing, i guess....
     
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    this is retarded. of course record labels have the rights to sell music digitally.

    They can sell in Vinyl, Cassette, CD, Digitally or hell even in 8 track. it's a standard in industry.

    This is just Eminem trying to shakedown his label for more money. Which is dumb. Digital sales are a way to offer it to more consumers who could otherwise be stealing it online.
     
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    Exactly!

    Or then again, maybe not... :D:D:D
     
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    Something like this would make me want to download illegally... you know if the artist was actually any good.
     
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    I would think Universal's (and all other distributors') contracts would contain language allowing them to distribute music in any format. Regardless, the case against Apple will get no where since the morons are suing the wrong company. :confused:
     
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    Uh, if he wins this then he gets to keep ALL the online sales money instead of sharing it with the label.

    So really it goes like this:

    "Hi, do you want to keep all the money your songs make online or do you want to share it with another company?"

    And you'd pick, "share" as your answer? :rolleyes: is right.

    I think it'd be pretty cool if he does win. Wouldn't it be nice if artists could all just put their music right on iTunes and get a check each month? Without a middle-man?
     
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    How else can I afford another solid gold Humvee?
    And diamond-studded swimming pools, these things don't grow on trees
    So all I ask is everybody please...
    Don't download this song!
     

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