Essential Mac Software for Mac Newbie

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by pnz999, Nov 21, 2002.

  1. macrumors member

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    I will be getting my first macs (dual 867 G4 tower and ibook 800 G3), very very soon just one more week. Well, I just need new software?

    I know theres Office X, Brickhouse (for firewall), Chimera (for web browsing), StuffIT (for compression), Norton Sytem Work (anti-virus, disk defrag), Toast (for CD burning)

    Anything else?
     
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    MacAztec

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    Ok

    First, dont get Office unless you really need it for work and you have PCs that need to use office. The mac will come with AppleWorks, and that should be fine.

    StuffIt is free. Toast is a maybe, you only need it if you burn a lot of just files (not mp3s, or .dmg)

    As for NAV, do not get it. Get .mac

    Its better, comes with web storage, comes with Virex, comes with BackUp, and other cool things i am sure you will love.
     
  3. macrumors 6502

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    Drive 10 - Deefragger/optimizer/repair utility.

    Macanalysis - Firewall /antihack software.

    Transparent Dock 2 - Dock changer upper
     
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    mnkeybsness

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    Re: Ok

    mine didn't come with appleworks
     
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    Rower_CPU

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    Re: Re: Ok

    Only the iMacs/eMacs/iBooks come with it.
     
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    MacAztec

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    Do you guys really need a firewall? I dont use one, and I never have problems. If you use one you will have problems when gaming and trading files...
     
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    FattyMembrane

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    10.2 comes with a built in firewall guys, that was one of it's big selling points. i pretty much rely on freeware and some good apps to check out are...
    Youpi Key - hotkey, launcher, scheduler app
    Locator - uses the unix locate database to find files (even hidden ones) very quickly
    DesInstaller - allows you to remove packages that you've installed
    Download Wizard - excellent download manager that can be called through a service
    ICeCoffEE - input manager that allows you to command click on web/email addresses in any app and launch browser/mail

    and the few apps that are truly worth the money...
    LaunchBar - type a few letters (abbreviations, acronyms, any combination) of anything on your hd and this will bring it up instantly (apps, text files, music, email addresses, bookmarks, etc).
    Photoshop Elements - if you're a student, academic superstore has this for $45 and it's worth every cent.
     
  8. arn
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    Apps I use day to day

    Interarchy - shareware FTP program
    VideoLAN.org (VLC) - freeware - Plays many movie media types not supported by Quicktime (divx, mpeg2)
    NetMonitor - displays current bandwidth usage
    BBEdit Lite - freeware text editor
    Snak - shareware IRC Client
    Thoth - shareware news reader

    You can find these all at http://www.versiontracker.com

    arn
     
  9. thread starter macrumors member

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    10.2.2 has a built-in firewall? its automatic turn on, or atleast how do I active OS X's firewall? Is it better than Brickhouse or Norton Personal Firewall/


    Apple Works is good but I need word processor that opens and saves *.doc files for school.


    Btw, I'm also a big IRC fan, in my PC I use mIRC but there good programs for the MAC?


    -thank you for the replies.
     
  10. arn
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    System Preferences -> Sharing -> Firewall

    arn
     
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    RBMaraman

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    AppleWorks DOES open and save .Doc files. It contains a program that allows all AppleWorks to open and save Word and Excel documents. It's one of the many common misconceptions about AppleWorks. I'm a college student, and I think AppleWorks is great. It's much more affordable than Office, and it's very easy to use. Get AppleWorks and save yourself $150.
     
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    Mr. Anderson

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    The one thing you forgot to mention is what you plan on doing with your two new systems. There are quite a few good apps out there, why don't you tell us what you want to do.

    D
     
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    FattyMembrane

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    like arn said, it's in the system prefs. osx has always had a firewall, but until 10.2, there was no built-in way wo configure it without using the terminal. brickhouse simply provided a gui for configuring the built in firewall, it was not a firewall itself, and i'm not sure how well norton works as i have not tried it. the built in firewall is very easy to use and set up, check it out.
     
  14. thread starter macrumors member

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    My intention for my macs are the dual 867 is for my multimedia stuff like photoshop and imovie, ibook is for college, basic stuff - writing essay, icalc, and watching dvd.

    all and all, i think iApps covers everything i need do with my computer in a day-to-day basis from a dvd player, mp3 player to ichat.

    i was just looking for other people's suggestion on good freeware/shareware programs? [but i think going to versiontracker.com is my best bet]

    im still looking for a FREE ftp/irc programs? [any suggestions]

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    Hello OS X.2.2! Good Bye Microsoft XP Pro!
     
  15. thread starter macrumors member

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    one more thing, i do need an "uninstaller" program for the mac too? [meaning completely delete the program cuz im probally gonna install alot of shareware/freeware software from versiontracker.com]


    for example, MS XP doesnt completely erase "deleted" programs it just simply leave it in the recycle bin.
     
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    FattyMembrane

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    as far as irc programs go, ircle has several years of development behind it and has about every feature you could ever want ($15 shareware with 30 day demo). there have been several newcomers on osx and upk is actually looking like a very cool free irc client.
    an uninstaller is kind of a tricky deal. there is a program called "desinstaller" which will uninstall programs, but only those that used apple's "installer" program. things that use vise or other proprietary installers often put stuff all over your system and don't leave a record of where it went.
     
  17. macrumors 68040

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    For FTP I would download Fetch. Fetch has years of development and is OS X native nowadays.
     
  18. macrumors 6502

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    Re: Ok

    Appleworks comes only in the consumer models, not the professional ones. check apple's website, or better yet, just trust me, as i have a dual 867 and it didn't come with any text editors other than Text Edit.
     
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    Uh. No. They do for the most time completely erase deleted programs. Uninstall programs don't use the recycle bin.

    If you wanted to delete individual files, you could just shift+delete it or drag in the recycle bin and later clear out the recycle bin.
     
  20. macrumors 6502

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    transmit is 10 times better.
    www.panic.com
     
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    macktheknife

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    Re: Ok

    As a Macuser working in the Microsoft-dominated corporate world, I'd have to agree with this statement. Get Office only if you need to read .doc and .xls files without worrying about any issues about how they look. If you're a student who's just writing term papers/essays, you can get back with AppleWorks or something like ThinkFree Office.

    BTW, the only feature from MS Office that impresses me is VBA. As a spreadsheet/quant modeling veteran, VBA is pretty neat to say the least.
     
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    IRC/FTP stuff

    OSX has a built in FTP client:

    /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

    then do:

    % ftp foo.bar

    Type in "help" after that or initially do

    % man ftp

    For more information on how to use it. Finder's FTP support is less than stellar.

    For IRC, look for a copy of SIRC, a perl-based IRC client, to run it, pop open the terminal and type in:

    % perl path/too/script/dsirc -s irc.foo.bar

    You don't have to put the stuff from the -s on, but it'll try to connect initially to a non-existant server. I'd suggest keeping an eye on Fire, as it has pretty decent IRC, with more coming.
     
  23. job
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    Get GraphicConverter for $25 (Unless of course it comes pre-installed on your new Macs.)

    It opens and saves to more file formats than I care to mention.

    http://lemkesoft.com

    As arn mentioned, BBEdit is a wonderful freeware/shareware text editor. BBEdit Lite is free and fine for simple daily usage. You'll have to pony up $99 for the full thing though.

    Also you may want to consider picking up a copy of ThinkFree Office. It opens, writes to, and saves MS Office documents, Excel files, and Powerpoint presentations. It costs around $50.

    You really won't have to purchase Toast if you are just going to burn a casual music or data CD. The built-in burner in iTunes and Mac OS X itself is fine for the average CD burning.
     
  24. thread starter macrumors member

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    Re: IRC/FTP stuff


    btw, there are some cool websites where i can learn basic command line (terminal)?

    thanks .
     
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