Exactly Who Is In Charge?

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  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6274147.stm
    I suppose it didn't fit with his invasion plans. Three thousand dead Americans and countless dead Iraqis might disagree, of course.
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    So have you heard the one about those folks, the Hatfields and the McCoys?

    Sheesh, if this is legit, it's yet another view of the appalling way this administration has approached foreign policy. By rejecting this overture, as a direct result we now have a greatly exacerbated Palestinian / Israeli problem, as well as a greatly exacerbated Hezbollah problem.

    The Bushies were betting that military might would solve all these problems. They've been wrong in every case, and yet now they want us to believe that incrementally additional military might will solve the problems in Iraq.
     
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    It boils down to Nukes, get rid of your program or we arent talking except with our bombs and this makes them even worker harder on their Nuke programs. Its a circle jerk with Bush playing lead.
     
  4. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    What interests me is the implication that Bush is completely out of the loop.
     
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    Back in the beginning I suspected that to be the case, but I honestly thought it was Daddy pulling the strings, just like he did with Reagan from 1982-88. However, as time went on and the foreign policy became more and more of a mess I dismissed the thought. Bush Sr. is too smart for his actions to result in the current shambles.

    Also didn't we hear a journalist say some time back that Dubya was covering domestic policy and leaving foreign policy to Cheney and (at that time) Rumsfeld?
     
  6. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Umm, what domestic policy?
     
  7. Queso macrumors G4

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    Oh you know. Stopping the curing of diseases, oppressing The Gheys.....:rolleyes:
     
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    Cheney ranks. Highest on my dislike list are those who are "lovers of war". One cannot be disappointed in individuals whom they've never trusted to begin with. While Bush and Condi have their agendas, I choose to reserve crafty, astute and cunning for describing Mr. Cheney.
     
  10. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    You are far too kind. There are no words nasty enough in my dictionary.
     
  11. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    My guess is 90% of the policy out of the whitehouse comes from Cheney. Policy like lets go after that CIA agent whos saying the truth, stuff like that. After all he had to start a war in Iraq for his Company Haliburton who still send him checks every year. You got to love these former draft dodgers who made Iraq what it is today. Working hard for anyone but the American people.
     
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    Okay. Un astuto, hi__ de p__a, descarado, sin verguenza, cabezón. (Sometimes, English isn't juicy enough).
     
  13. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Your dictionary is better than mine. :)
     
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    Every time you think the arrogance and incompetence of this administration have peaked, you find out they've taken it one step further.

    Whether or not Cheney was the brain (pardon the expression!) behind this blunder, it is obviously one of the first magnitude.
     
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    Don't give Cheney too much credit. I imagine Rove equally drove much of the policy decisions as well, particlarly as they related to GOP election strategy - which was, as near as I can tell, practically every policy decision.

    Rove was in charge of getting the GOP into "permanant majority" status. Cheney was in charge of expanding presidential powers. Ironically, both will probably be seen as achieving the opposite when the inevitable backlash comes. Rove's already gotten his with the GOP's electoral humiliation in November, and Cheney probably sees the writing on the wall. Thus the purge of US Attorneys?
     
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    like, a thousand years of GOP leadership, or something like that?

    we need to come up with a word that describes the revelations found in this story: real and unreal at the same time.
     
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    Kingocracy?
     
  18. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    I think that's called Monarchy. :rolleyes:
     
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    Who's in charge? Follow the money...

    Oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, the Big Three, the military/industrial complex... All the entrenched interests with money to burn hooked into politicians who whore themselves out for $1000-a-plate dinners.

    Federally financed campaigns might help, but the ineterests will fight this harder than anything else because it reduces their influence in Washington.

    It's not about whether Cheney or Bush is in charge, it's about their motivation for making the decisions they do.
     
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    A Monarchy isnt elected.........:rolleyes: .....:D
     
  21. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    And what's going on the other side of the Pond? Should we now address MR posters as Sir skunk or Sir dynamicv? Who's in charge of selling honors, besides Ruth Turner? :p
     
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    Welcome to the Kingocracy!
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    who's that? my great-great-grandmother was named Ruth Turner.
     
  24. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Optional, I think. We didn't pay the full whack.
     
  25. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    There are no doubt a bunch of players. I thought recent criticism of Cheney by Mondale was pertinent.
     

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