External HD Advice

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by DarkNetworks, Mar 13, 2006.

  1. DarkNetworks macrumors 68000

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    I'm planning to get an external HD from LaCie.
    I'm currently considering,
    LaCie Mobile Hard Drive, Design by F.A. Porsche (USB2.0)
    40GB 5400RPM
    50GB 4200RPM
    Both for the same price. What's RPM and will it make any difference at all?
    Plus, i'm considering this one as well,
    LaCie Hard Drive, Design by F.A. Porsche (USB2.0)
    80GB for the same price as well.
    The problem is, the Mobile HD doesn't need an external power and this one needs one. Which one should i really get?
     
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  3. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    If you want a USB2 LaCie drive, and like Porsche's design, I would rather go for the much cheaper Desktop version which has a 3.5 disk that's faster (7200 rpm) and has much more storage space, without being that much bigger, physically.

    I'm probably going to get a 200GB version of that drive this week. (I actually prefer Seagate's external combo drives, but I can get a brand new 200 GB USB2 LaCie Porsche for NOK 500 ≈ US$ 75, and I need some extra space for my poor old iBook now, and don't have too much money... :eek:)
     
  4. DarkNetworks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    what's the difference between Desktop version and Mobile version. Is it gonna cause more trouble if i buy the Desktop version because it needs to be plugged into a power source?
    What's the RPM thing? Will there be any difference?
     
  5. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    As far as I can tell, the Mobile versions uses 2.5" laptop drives, which typically runs at 4200/5400 rpm (the speed the disk spins at) and have up to 160 GB storage space (the newest and most expensive Seagate), while the Desktop version uses 3.5" disks typically found in desktop computers. They are cheaper and usually runs on 7200 rpm and come in sizes up to 500 GB.

    The desktop disks are, as you can see, cheaper and faster (even if there are some 7200 rpm laptop disks, too, out there) and has much more capacity. The downside is power consumption: A laptop disk can often get enough power from the USB/Firewire connection while the desktop drives typically need external power.

    So if you want to be ultra-portable then get a Mobile (i.e. laptop) drive, but if you can endure an extra power cord then the Desktop models will give you much better value for money... :)
     
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    I would not buy a Lacie. I had 3 of them and they all died on me. I brought them since they looked cool.

    I would get one of those Pocket drives from firelite and you dont have to drag around a power cable.


     
  8. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    I actually went out and bought the above mentioned desktop version of the 200 GB USB LaCie Porsche disk:

    First impression: Very nice. More quiet then I expected and reasonably fast for an external USB2 disk. I made a couple of partitions, transferred my +3GB iPhoto library (which finally has some expansion room) and used SilverKeeper to make a complete clone of my iBook HD (wit more that 45 GB data). At the end both disk and iBook CPU were pretty hot, but neither "complained".

    And it matches my external DVD burner 100%... :)
     
  9. DarkNetworks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    What's SilverKeeper? I've an iBook. Can i install Mac OS X on the external HD and boot and run my computer from there? Will it work using my iBook? So does it get really hot quickly?
     
  10. adk macrumors 68000

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    I'd recommend you buy a nice seagate internal drive and put it in a nice enclosure. It'll end up costing about the same, but you'll get a 5 year warranty on the HD instead of a 1 year warranty on most externals.
     
  11. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    SilverKeeper is a free backup program provided by LaCie with most burners and hard drives (or you can download it from LaCie). With that you can make a copy of your iBook's HD on any external HD (large enough), and if it's a Firewire drive you can boot from that external drive if you need that. (My old Pismo could boot from a USB drive, too, but I don't think the iBooks can do this, though I haven't tried, yet).

    When you make the initial backup of everything on your HD, the external drive will get hot. Copying lets say 45 GB of data will do that to any external drive (which is why some enclosures come with it's own fan) like this one I mentioned in another thread (which seems like a good deal, BTW, even it the enclosure is butt ugly) which is a good Seagate disk bundled with an enclosure, just as adk recommends. ;)

    If you copy that amount of data over to a USB2 drive it will also get your iBook CPU very hot, because USB is much more CPU dependant than Firewire, which has more of the guidance system on the Firewire module itself (which is one reason why a Firewire chip takes much more space than a USB chip ;)). But of cause, it won't harm your iBook (the fans just kick in), and shouldn't harm the disk.
     
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    You should not get a mac 3 of t hem have died on someone and they got them because they looked cool.
     
  13. DarkNetworks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    i wouldn't mind going into FireWire even if i had to pay extra but i don't think my PC is FireWire compatitable...
     
  14. themanfromvlad macrumors 6502

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    Video Editing

    If you are going to be doing a lot of video editing, make sure the drive spins at 7200 RPM. 4200 or 5400 is not good for video editing.
     
  15. iPhil macrumors 68040

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    whats the spec on the pc ??:confused: :eek:
     
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    I have a EZQuest Cobra HD and it's been solid. It's a little loud for my taste but EXTREMELY reliable. I highly recommend this drive.

    ~e
     
  17. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    So get a 3.5" drive enclosure that has both Firewire and USB2...
    http://www.macally.com/spec/usb/storage_device/phr_100ac.html


    "My Desktop PC doesn't have a Firewire Port" already stated earlier in the thread... seems fairly definitive...
     
  18. iPhil macrumors 68040

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    Why i wanted to know is: there might be a pci fw card that he could install into the pc for the higher speed than USB for like video editing etc :eek:



    edit: since he asked about fw in post #13: i wouldn't mind going into FireWire even if i had to pay extra but i don't think my PC is FireWire compatitable...
     
  19. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    And in that case a reply like "You can install a Firewire card in your PC for about $25 if it has an open PCI slot" would have been a more informative post...
     
  20. rjphoto macrumors 6502a

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    Or how about getting a drive that has USB2 and Firewire....
     
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  22. DarkNetworks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Celeron 800Mhz with 256MB of RAM. It's a very old PC.

    I don't really do video editing on my PC, i just need to transfer my BT files. I do most of my video editing work on my iBook. As far as an additional PCI, i doubt as i think i've used most of it. i've one WiFi Card in there, one Network Card and one Video Card in there already.
     
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