EyeTV iPhone App Pulled by Apple, Revised Version Submitted

Discussion in 'iOS Blog Discussion' started by MacRumors, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Yesterday, we noted that an easter egg had been discovered in Elgato's EyeTV iPhone application that allowed users to stream live TV to their devices over 3G wireless networks. While the workaround had been present since the application's launch late last month, it hadn't gained significant publicity until yesterday, and Apple quickly moved to pull the application from the App Store due to its agreement with AT&T not to allow television signals to be "redirected" to mobile devices.

    According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, Elgato has issued a statement claiming that the feature was related to test code that the company failed to remove from the application prior to submitting it to Apple and noting that a revised version of the application lacking the functionality has been submitted for App Store review.
    Article Link: EyeTV iPhone App Pulled by Apple, Revised Version Submitted
  2. macrumors regular

    Apr 18, 2001
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    I don't understand why AT&T gets to decide, interfere with the choices and features available to iPhone users around the world! If my carrier is better equiped or even just less of a tyrrant why do we get to suffer?!

    Don't developers have a choice where to offer their apps? I'm sorry to say this, but why don't they offer their Crippled apps just in the US store?! Why do we have to suffer?!
  3. macrumors 65816

    Jan 9, 2007
    Guess I won't be updating this app any time soon. :) :p
  4. macrumors G3


    Mar 20, 2007
    Got the work around to work - though it is pretty laggy. It'll play fine for 10 secs then stop, buffer for a minute or so.

    It'd be great if it worked flawlessly!
  5. macrumors member


    Aug 27, 2009
    I agree. The rest of the should not have crippled apps due to the agreement between Apple and AT&T. This is one of the reasons why jailbreaking using e.g. 3gunrestrictor is more or less required. I don't want to jailbreak but I probably will sooner or later. The agreement is not valid in my country!
  6. macrumors 6502a


    Jun 21, 2007
    Colchester, UK.
  7. macrumors 604


    Dec 8, 2007
    bump on a log in a hole in the bottom of the sea
  8. macrumors 65816

    Oct 4, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    They make restrictions, and we fall back.

    They get rid of entire apps, and we fall back.

    Well not again. The line must be drawn HEAH! This fahhh NO FAHHTHER!

    And IIIIIIII will make them PAY for what they've done!!!!
  9. macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    im getting tired of this "unlimited data" plan im paying for and not being able to use it as i see fit
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 9, 2005
    When the FCC finally clamps down and throws Apple and ATT in the slammer, I think I know who will be pitching and who will be catching in their shower-room encounters. :eek:
  11. macrumors 603


    Oct 28, 2007
    This proves, beyond any reasonable dispute, that AT&T plays a significant role in the app approval process. This is in direct violation of the FCC's vision of net neutrality. I hope the FCC is privy to this latest move.
  12. macrumors 68020

    Mr. Gates

    Jun 17, 2009
    --Redmond --------- ----------------Washington---
  13. macrumors 68040

    Jan 11, 2007
    North Central Florida
    I agree.... why should the rest of the world have to suffer because of AT&T? Bad enough the US has too.....
  14. macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    Change the quality of the stream. When you're in Live TV and looking at the guide press the gears button at the top right corner and slide the the kbps to a lower quality.
  15. macrumors member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Ditto - I'll have to update apps one at a time very carefully. I suspect this functionality will return once iPhone not just on AT&T network.
  16. macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2009
    Fail-hio, Fail states of Failmerica.
    Yeah, AT&T doesn't need to be domineering Apple like this :( I'm sure someone has already said this, but isnt it rather redundant that AT&T isn't letting us stream video from an app store app, yet they allow YouTube to be accessed by thousands of users everyday?(rough estimate) :/

    Man will I be glad when Apple and AT&T split. :D
  17. macrumors 601


    Oct 24, 2007
    Seattle, Wa
    Just great. Can we backup .ipa's if our phones aren't jail broken? I need to keep it just incase I hit update.
  18. macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2009
    Fail-hio, Fail states of Failmerica.
    Yes, they are located in either:

    ~/Music/iTunes/Mobile Applications/

    or, if you've recently updated iTunes,

    ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Mobile Applications

    ~ meaning your user folder. :)
  19. macrumors 68000

    Oct 30, 2002
    San Diego, CA
    There are a lot of iPhone apps in the iTunes Store that allow video streaming. It's only live TV that can't be streamed. You can, however, stream TV that has been pre-recorded (i.e. time shifted).

    I'm not certain why they make this distinction, but it could be because AT&T's legal team is afraid that they could get in trouble for enabling the rebroadcasting of live TV. Also, I suspect there could be a "crush" of users if breaking news occurred and everyone attempted to view CNN at the same moment on their iPhones.
  20. macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2009
    Fail-hio, Fail states of Failmerica.
    That's what I meant. :)

    Still, it's not like watching streaming live tv (at low quality) is going to bring the whole network down, but then again, you can't be sure with AT&T. :D

    edit: I suppose it could be due to legality as well. I don't see users selling iPhone quality streamed tv, though...
  21. macrumors member


    Jul 18, 2008
    Rights issue

    I hate in any way shape or form to seem like I am defending AT&T, but it is possible that this is not an issue of streaming or clogging their network. It is possible that this is a rights issue, and AT&T might not have the ownership/rights to allow users to stream Live TV over their networks, or at least their concern is that some content on Live TV have independently sold rights to their product being shown live on the net (for example, the Sporting Leagues typically sell the rights to stream their games on the net to different companies than the networks that broadcast their games on TV and/or radio).

    Wi-Fi is out of the AT&T network and streaming pre-recorded elements is basically just accessing your computer and its data you have recorded on the hard drive (which AT&T accepts no responsibility for). Streaming Live TV might get into a whole royalties issue with the networks and producers. This might explain Slingbox as well, as (correct me if I am wrong) that only allows you to stream on Wi-Fi.

    This would be similar to the XM/Sirius application, that does not allow you to listen to things like MLB over the app, as XM/Sirius does not own the internet rights to the product, so they cannot distribute it.

    I have no inside information or anything, so I might be talking out of my butt, but this might not be AT&T's fault.
  22. macrumors 68000


    Apr 17, 2008
    Copy Rights anyone

    I see more of copy right issues and problems with how copyrights work in today's world, until we resolve that this is going to be a problem we will see again.

    But with ATT sucking and bitching about their network issues I can also see ATT saying if we allow this and many people start doing it say on the weekend we could see areas basically going down the tube when it comes to speed. Maybe all this will be resolve if we finally get real copyright legislation or 4G comes out and actually does what it promises, we can only wait and see what the next excuse will be.
  23. macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    Device engineer 30+ yrs, touchscreens 24+.
    It's not a copyright issue.

    The Verizon Wireless contract specifically allows streaming video on their network.
  24. macrumors 6502a

    Aug 6, 2006
    Birmingham, UK
    I can’t wait for AT&T to loose their exclusivity. They are interfering with development because of their sub-standard network. The iPhone OS platform is being held back by them.

    Apple need to get a grip and see what other platforms, phone operators and countries are doing.

    3G in the UK is advertised as a network for video and audio streaming, iPhone is the only device which does not do this.

    Anyone in the USA want to complain to the FCC?
  25. macrumors 6502a


    Oct 26, 2007
    Um... Macrumors ? :rolleyes:

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