Finder has gone away, won't come back

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  1. mcgarry macrumors 6502a

    mcgarry

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    I have searched the forums (and beyond) to no avail, but if someone knows of an answer out there I'd be happy to be pointed in the right direction.

    I have a Blueberry iMac (SL, no FW) G3 running 10.2.8. I don't use it that often, as I have a PowerBook for primary use, and had recently taken to even keeping it unplugged to free up wall space and such. Today I started it up to look for an old file, and almost immediately the Console screen and the Finder.crash.log appeared. Console displays the following message:

    2005-01-02 14:16:31.156 Console[411] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: *** NSRunStorage, _NSBlockNumberForIndex(): index (359613) beyond array bounds (359613)

    It just repeats and repeats in <1 min. intervals, with the time advancing and the numbers in parentheses getting larger.

    I can launch other apps, or at least the Disk Utility.

    I have repaired the disk from a startup CD (10.2.0), repaired permissions (first mistakenly from the CD, then from the HD), reset PRAM, started up in safe mode, and even run fsck - f from single user mode. But every restart brings the same result.

    I can guess that the computer needs a new battery, since the clock has been reset the last couple times I plugged it in and started it up, but would that be causing a problem like this?

    Let me know if I should also post the info from Finder.crash.log

    Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
     
  2. cluthz macrumors 68040

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    Reinstalling MacOSX will help you, unless its hardware related.

    There is an "install & archive" option, this will preserve your user and your info on the disk.
     
  3. mcgarry thread starter macrumors 6502a

    mcgarry

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    This may take some work, as there is only 1.1GB free on the disk .... I guess I could back up stuff to the PB first to make room enough... although without Finder working, I don't know how the connectivity will work (no FW for target disk mode on this old thing).

    Any idea what is happening, though?

     
  4. cluthz macrumors 68040

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    You could try to use ssh to reach the bondi from you powerbook.

    About the NS exceptions, I know it some kind of cocoa error, but I can't help you there.
     
  5. mcgarry thread starter macrumors 6502a

    mcgarry

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    Thanks for the advice. I am currently logged in as single-user mode and trying to delete enough files to do an archive&install of 10.2. I do have a lot of junk on there.

    I think this may have been caused by my recent (as in, last time it was turned on) dumping of a couple more GB of stuff onto the HD-- ironically, this was serving as a sort of backup. It had never been that full before, and I have heard that OS X can be sensitive to full HDs. Just an idea.
     
  6. combatcolin macrumors 68020

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  7. point665 macrumors regular

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    Have you tried booting into Firewire Target mode and getting the files using the Powerbook? Hold T at boot.
     
  8. mcgarry thread starter macrumors 6502a

    mcgarry

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    Finder back

    Thanks for all of your help, guys, the iMac is back. I was able to delete enough space in single-user mode to then restart from the 10.2 CD and perform an archive-and-install. I then deleted the previous system and now the iMac has 3.5 GB free. I didn't reinstall a lot of the optional stuff like printer drivers and language kits, to help free up space. (The iMac has a non-OEM 20 GB drive I installed a few years ago.) I wish I knew what happened, though.

    So far it is running fine. I also replaced the 3.6v Lithium battery. I have heard that after doing so, I am supposed to reset the PMU manually or something. Is this true? On my older Macs, I never did.

    And just to clear up a little unimportant misunderstanding, this is not a Bondi iMac, it is officially a "Blueberry," with a G3 @ 350 MHz, but it does NOT have FireWire. All of the slot-loading (no CD/DVD tray) iMacs from 1999 onwards did have FW except for the bottom-of-the-line one from 1999, which is my model. So, it is "SL" but not "DV." For more details see www.apple-history.com or Mactracker.

    Thanks again.

     

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