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Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by AnthonyKinyon, Aug 2, 2006.
Mozilla has just released Firefox 188.8.131.52 for Mac
Some release notes, or a link to the changelog, don't just link to DMG's
The product site is still showing 184.108.40.206 as current.
The release notes, etc. are not posted yet so I can't link to them, can I?
( ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/220.127.116.11/mac/en-US )
They always update the FTP site before the website (http). I can confirm this is the final release of 18.104.22.168, however. MajorGeeks.com is also listing the final 22.214.171.124 for Windows (Mozilla always releases Mac/Windows/Linux versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. on the same day).
The Mac Majorgeeks site doesn't list Firefox 126.96.36.199 yet but it hasn't been updated today (the site). I have submitted it to them.
Different Mozilla browsers and what's different
Camino is smaller, faster and lighter than Firefox, but does not support the extensions/plug-ins etc. (some plug-ins do work such as Adobe/PDF, Flash, Flip4Mac, etc.) Camino is exclusively a Mac OS X browser.
Firefox is the main browser for *all* platforms (Mac Linux Windows). Basically the same on each.
SeaMonkey is the new life breathed into the old Mozilla suite that was discontinued. It supports all 3 platforms. It includes email, chat, browser, etc. whereas Firefox is ONLY a browser (complimented separately/optionally by Thunderbird, the e-mail program).
Mozilla the brower is discontinued (but is now SeaMonkey, see above).
i'm at work now (read: windows pc) and i clicked "check for updates" and it didn't do anything. plus, the browser usually downloads the udpates and then asks you to close and re-open the browswer to install.
they just released 188.8.131.52 - why are they releasing another update so soon?
looks fishy to me
Why does it look fishy when the links provided go directly to Mozilla's website and FTP site? Please explain why you distrust the Mozilla foundation?
There is no official word yet as to what's new but I would guess bug fix or security update. Almost has to be one of those. Plus, this is only a 0.0.0.1 upgrade, so it can't be a HUGE change. Might be an important security fix though. Ask Mozilla.
Firefox site officially shows 184.108.40.206 now
By the way.. the official Firefox website now shows 220.127.116.11 - I guess maybe next time you will trust me now that you have seen I'm reliable.
Well, the link doesn't go directly to Mozilla's website. It stops by "tinyurl.com" on the way there (before being redirected). That's probably why they thought it looked fishy. Was there a reason for not just using the actual link URL?
Fair enough point. Go to www.tinyurl.com and check it out. All it does is provides a short link (URL) for a long web or FTP address. It's fast, free and works good (ad free, etc. - no pop ups or spyware etc) been using it for years.
I also linked to Mozilla's FTP site and website. Fred Langa (www.langa.com) often uses Tiny URL as do many others... its safe.
Mozilla's official Firefox page now lists the 18.104.22.168 version officially.. proving I didn't lie.
Not my loss but that's OK. I don't mean to sound snide or anything but I promise I'm not doing anything nefarious here.. just trying to be helpful to you guys. Sorry if you thought otherwise my friend.
I'm new to mac and im just wondering how firefox compares to safari. I always used firefox on my pc but ive been using safari since i got my macbook and have been fine with it. i hear from some people firefox is faster, but from other people i hear safari is faster.
I like them both, but I also have Opera, Firefox, Safari, Camino, SeaMonkey. I primarly only use Safari on the Mac. On Windows I almost exclusively use Firefox (except certain *gasp* IE things I have to do at work and yes I hate IE lol ).
I prefer Safari to Firefox on Mac but Firefox is more extensible and is multiplatform.
Safari is a great browser IMO (in my opinion). Fast, light and secure.
Firefox is relatively secure (more than IE!) and can use themes and extensions for all sorts of cool things!
If you haven't already, I suggest enabling tabbed browsing in Safari. Its in the preferences.
"Firefox 22.214.171.124 is a stability update that is part of our ongoing program to provide a safe Internet experience for our customers. We recommend that all users upgrade to this latest version.
Fixed an issue with playing Windows Media content
Release Date: August 2, 2006"
i use tabbed browsing in safari all the time. it owns
what about camino? ive heard some good stuff about that. what makes it different then firefox?
Camino is lighter/smaller than Firefox but doesn't support extensions, etc. - it is also updated less frequently, but designed exclusively for Mac.
It's a good product. Free add-on here for it that adds more options and features.
Today is the first time I've seen you. Suddenly, you're posting a dubious URL and urging everyone to go there to download an update to a product that follows another update not two weeks old. You didn't provide any release notes, either.
What doesn't sound odd about this?
You can say that TinyURL is safe, but you can put anything in that link, right? Someone might even provide a link to a problem, if they were nefarious.
tinyurl.com provides a great service for those who need it. They're above-board and free. On the other hand, the fact that the link is not "realized" until you click through the tinyurl one makes it potentially dangerous.
The point about TinyURL has been made like 3 times already - yes I understand it could point to anything - OTOH (on the other hand) - Macs are pretty much invulnerable against almost anything (virsues, worms, etc.) so what's the big deal?
Secondly, I haven't just started posting today. You may have only seen me today for the first time, but if you were to look back you would see I've been posting for months off and on. (Not a lot of posts, but a few here and there).
Some vendors frequently release point updates right after products are released to fix last minute bugs, etc. - this is NOT uncommon.
Example: Opera 9.0 just recently came out. 9.01 is out. Firefox 126.96.36.199 just came out - 188.8.131.52 is out. Same with SeaMonkey 1.0.3 to 1.0.4 - it happens constantly or at least relatively often. It isn't that unusual.
Third, I also provided links to the products homepages and/or the MOZILLA FTP SITE the files were available on publicly in the "releases" folders. Fourth, other download sites were listing these releases by the time I posted them on MacRumors.com forums - it wasn't just me saying they were out there. I was just trying to be helpful to others as a couresy. You seem awfully ungrateful and suspicious over nothing. I realize you don't know me and have no reason to trust me, but OTOH I have better things to do than waste time trying to cause you grief. Also, I assume my IP would be logged and timestamped each time I post on this forum so unless I were at a public place, it could be traced back to me fairly easily and thus I'd be entangled legally in some nonsense. Like I want that.
I don't believe I ever "urged everyone to download" anything, let alone *anyone* - I put it out there and let THEM CHOOSE if they wanted it. Stop twisting my words and putting them in my mouth and attributing actions to me that I didn't do or say please.
I don't wish to get into a big stupid argument with you over this since it's not worth the time/energy - but one question nagging at me is - please show me where I *EVER* "urged everyone to download" anything? I put links and announced the products were available and answered in a friendly way some questions asked, etc. - that was it. I don't think I ever demanded/urged/coerced, etc. anyone to do anything. If you bothered to actually *read* my posts, you'd see that I have mentioned several times on these forums that I'm all for and about user choice - do what *you* want - it's going to affect *you* so make the choice *you* feel best about.
Now, having said that. No hard feelings, etc. I don't wish to have a flame war, etc. but you should lighten up a little. The release notes thing - in closing - were not yet posted on Mozilla's site when I announced the products were available. I stated this in my postings when someone asked. Later, when they *were* posted, I came back and posted them along with links to them (non tiny URL) on Mozilla's site...
So please share with us how anything I did was nefarious/evil/cruel/forceful, etc? After that, let's let this nonsense drop please.
This point was made earlier and is well taken. Thank you for confirming though, that Tiny URL is "above the board" I do appreciate that.
I meant nothing bad here, I don't know why certain people feel compelled to twist words and construe things... I was just trying to be nice, geez.
Okay, time to call a time out.
The original poster meant no harm in using TinyURL...it is a very handy site that I've used many times myself. But it can be used to mask the true link you're posting, which is why I only trust it when I receive the links from people I know.
AnthonyKinyon, there is a legitimate threat. The Leap/A (Oompa-Loompa) "virus" was deployed here at MacRumors through a link, so people are nervous about clicking links that could lead to something other than familiar website, as they should be. And not everybody here is on Macs, so there are people who are vulnerable to spyware, etc.
Let's just drop it and move on.
Thank you for stepping in. The last thing I wanted to do was create controversy etc. I appreciate your statesmanship and kindness here. (and calm mind)
I didn't know of the virus deployed here previously - and I did state I would stay away from TinyURL links on here already, which is why I was somewhat surprised that someone would make a big deal out of it.
In any case, you are right, let's move on and drop this. Thanks for your kind words again. I'll keep cool and not dwell on this and I hope that's what we all do. We all (well most of us) love Macs right so let's enjoy them!