Firewire 800 external drives? And SATA vs IDE

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  1. rdhmario3suit macrumors member

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    Alright, I think I'm going to just get an external enclosure and get a 3.5" drive for my Macbook Pro to use as a Final Cut scratch disk. I want approx. 160GB of storage and definitely 7200rpm.

    So are there any external enclosures that make use of the MBP's Firewire 800 port or is it all just the regular one?

    Also I'm mostly just finding enclosures for IDE drives; would it be beneficial to go with SATA instead because its faster rates?

    Thanks
     
  2. GraceMolloy macrumors regular

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    I saw a nice Weibetch (sp?) one the other day but it's 90 bucks.

    I'm also in the market for a nice Firewire 800 3.5" enclosure.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
  3. Faraday macrumors member

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    Firewire 800 SATA enclosure

    This is a nice enclosure - Takes one 3.5 SATA drive, and has every possible connection you could want - FW800, FW400, eSATA, USB. Metal case, so no colling fan required. Oxford 924 Chipset. Even looks good ...

    http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/pleiades/pd_scombo

    There is also a cheaper version available without the eSATA port.
     

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  4. rdhmario3suit thread starter macrumors member

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    Any Firewire 800 enclosures for less than $50?
     
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  6. Trishul macrumors regular

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    Faraday that enclosure looks amazing, and the feature list sounded too good to be true!!!

    anyone able to find a price for it in the US? best i can find is here in the UK (span.com) and it's like £100 inc.vat, and £80 without the eSata, which has to be as expensive as enclosures get i imagine. Also i read about someone saying their power supply was fussy, as the product is originally from Australia and may not have designed versions specifically for other regions.

    £100 ($200) is a bit too much i think, £50-60 would have been perfect considering you can get a triple interface alum and fanless enclosure for £30. Even in Australia it comes to £80!

    to the original poster, i don't know where you live, but it shouldn't be too hard to get an enclosure for a 3.5" IDE that outputs FW800, SATA > FW800 is a bit more tricky i've found though, but not impossible and not crazy expensive.

    as for the Sata argument, i've also posted a similar thread but no response. to go Sata, Sata enclosures are very easy to come across, the only hassle is getting the Sata expresscard for your MBP, again depending on where you live, here in the UK cheapest i've found is £80 ($160 US), where as in the US you can get a card for around $50, which is a HUGE difference. I don't remember where i saw the benchmark, eSata beats Fw800 in pretty much every instance, but mostly by a 5-10% margin, except when writing to the disk, where the margin is pretty huge, and i imagine this would be a factor when rendering. But i'm a novice when it comes to the technical nitty gritty, and am also hoping for a reply from someone a bit more knowlegeable. From the sounds of things you won't be editing uncompressed HD, so FW800 should be fine.. but if you are like me and just need to know you are doing your work as fast as possible, then jury is still out AFAIK. :)
     
  7. topgun072003 macrumors 6502

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    I have this enclosure...It's a G-technology drive. Its called the G-drive Q. I love it. I use the firewire 800 all the time. I have it plugged into my PB G4. Great drive. I would recommend it.
     
  8. Apple Corps macrumors 68020

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    Trishul - some caution on the FW 800 "vs" SATA (I or II) performance.

    The LIMITING factor in most all cases is the hard drive. The maximum transfer rate for the 150 GB Raptor is around 83 MB/s - which might saturate the FW 800 bandwidth. In reality, the average transfer rate will be under 83 MB/s. Unless you are going to do some high performance RAID striping FW 800 would almost handle the maximum that the 10,000 rpm Raptor drive will put out. A single 7200 SATA drive w/o RAID array will not saturate FW 800. Thus, the huge bandwidth that SATA I or II provides is interesting but would not provide any performance increase to lose sleep over. It is nice to know that SATA provides 150 MB/s or 300 MB/s, but no drives can deliver that output. It is like letting me drive on the Autobahn in my old / slow VW. The road can safely provide for 140 mph speeds but my car will only do 70 mph.
     
  9. Apple Corps macrumors 68020

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    Please read my response to Trishul - and Google the topic - there are tons of enclosures out there: coolgear.com
     
  10. Trishul macrumors regular

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    thanks for the advice Apple Corps!! it has certainly helped with my upcoming purchase! :D
     
  11. cervaro macrumors regular

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    I'd recommend the Iomega Ultramax 640Gb. Available from the Apple UK store for around £210 as a special offer at the moment. Can be used in a RAID configuration (default mode) or as two separate 320Gb SATA drives. Has Firewire 800/400 and USB 2.0 connectivity.
     
  12. topgunn macrumors 65816

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    How's the build quality on this enclosure? Is it pretty solid?
     
  13. Apple Corps macrumors 68020

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    I've not seen the Q in person but all of the G - technology products I have seen have very good build quality. I may be purchasing one of their eSATA units at MacWorld in January.
     
  14. Josias macrumors 68000

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    I will most likely buy an external after Christmas. I am also most likely to somehow acquire an MBP around Spring, when Leopard and iLife '07 are standard. I really like the design of the Lacie HDD designed by F.A. Porsche. Since I probably won't notice the speed differene and all, I found out, that this only comes with FW400. What will the benefits be? It would most likely be used as an Aperture vault and for Time Machine. Will the Lacie HDD with FW400 be good, or should I get a FW800 enclosure?
     
  15. Apple Corps macrumors 68020

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    I would not consider FW 400 for any substantive large file use - slow compared to FW 800. LaCie has had a spotty reputation as to quality. Check out coolgear.com and g-technology.com for some additional ideas.
     
  16. topgunn macrumors 65816

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    After weighing the different options, I decided to go with the LaCie D2 320GB drive w/ FW800 from Newegg.com. It can be found here for the unbeatable price of $147 shipped. I wasn't sold on it until I went to the Apple Store here locally this afternoon to actually see and feel the drive. It is very solid. I have heard good and bad things about LaCie's quality but I have heard much more good than bad.
     

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