I got my dual 2.5Ghz G5 last month and unfortunately it did not ship with the Pioneer 108AA drive, instead I got a SONY DVD RW DW-U21A drive which is a rebadged Liteon Burner. However both drives are actually 16X DVD burners with Dual Layer Burn abilities that been dumbed down by Apple Firmware. More info here. http://www.hardmac.com/article.php?id=44 My problem is the Rebadged Sony Liteon Drive does not have a mac based Utility to do this. I cannot Do firmware upgrades with VPC either as it does not directly interface with the drive. VPC sees virtualized Disk drives only though I understand that if I were to put my drive in a USB box I could flash with VPC but I do not own one and don't wanna buy one. My only option right now is to find someone with a Desktop PC and stick my drive in there to flash. Does anyone know of a better way to do this. Has Anyone flashed their Dumbed down Pioneer or Sony Drives? It boggles my mind why Apple is doing this as these drives are perfectly capable of DL abilities and burn much faster all around. The oh because the ilife apps can't support it etc etc. excuses are bull as it does not take much for them to support it and we have ilife 05 and still no support. I have a theory that Apple is nervous or at least likes to shy away these days from Optical drive advancements. I think Steve is worried about people being able to copy DVD movies in uncompressed format with DL abilities and is trying to at least slow the situation by delaying Dual Layer Drives shipping as standard on the Macs. Apple is also shy on fully commiting itself to upcoming BlueRay or HD DVD media formats. I also remember reading an article once in where Steve Jobs said that he did not think Macs with HD or Blue ray Burners should be made available. Sure Apple is Gungho about HD support for editing and Viewing however with burning Apple does not want to move forward. I think Steve is letting his Pixar ties conflict with the advancement of technology on the Mac platform. Sure it's a far fetched theory but hey something is deffinitely up as even the newly released Powerbooks are actually shipping with dumbed down drives that actually do have DL abilities on the Hardware level.