FLIP 4 MAC sucks... Apple needs to find a WMP solution...

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by rxl125, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. rxl125 macrumors regular

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    I have made the change, but a windows media player is needed for many applications I still like (like radiomat.com radio stations). They are the top stations in all the USA (AM). There are some geeky workarounds to make it work, but the average consumer would have no idea how to do this (post the stream link into quicktime).

    Flip 4 mac has known about this problem for over a year and have not been able to fix it! Apple should give the company some support so an important application like this works!
     
  2. lexus macrumors 68000

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    Very true I hate Flip4Mac
     
  3. Compile 'em all macrumors 601

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  4. Chundles macrumors G4

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    You mean "Microsoft should give this company some support." Flip4Mac works very well for the formats it supports, Microsoft own the whole wmv/wma universe - they're the ones who you should be talking to.

    Apple supports standards, windows media is not a standard, it's a proprietary format owned by Microsoft. If you want your sites to work, either ask the site to use a proper streaming standard rather than something licensed from MS or ask MS to release more functionality to the folks who make Flip4Mac.

    It's not Apple's fault that a 3rd party program can't handle proprietary formats that they're not allowed to use.
     
  5. rxl125 thread starter macrumors regular

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    If I want to open a Microsoft Word document in IWORK I can... Don't give apple a free pass on this one... they have a good relationship with Microsoft, get it done apple!
     
  6. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    Word documents are not encoded behind a DRM wall. WMV streams can be. Apple cannot reverse engineer around this without potentially violating the DMCA. It should not be up to Apple to support Microsofts proprietary products. Apple produce Quicktime for Windows. Microsoft should produce a viable working WMV player for OSX.
     
  7. dan-o-mac macrumors 6502a

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    Flip works for all my pron, no complaints from me. :D
     
  8. srf4real macrumors 68030

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    Yeh, the correct statement imop is "Microsoft sucks, why won't they use a standard format for music and video!":p
     
  9. cyberddot macrumors 6502

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    I've never had a problem opening .wmv's with Flip4Mac, and haven't had even fewer codec bumps since VLC. Though I wouldn't mind a QTP that would handle MS's files, I think Microsoft has a little bit of work to do here.
     
  10. rxl125 thread starter macrumors regular

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    this is an intel mac problem... if you don't believe it's a problem ... got to 610wip.com and try it out...
     
  11. srf4real macrumors 68030

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    That website doesn't work on my ppc mini with QT pro key and Flip4Mac -wmv player Pro.:rolleyes:

    >edit: I can listen, but the video links do not play.
     
  12. rxl125 thread starter macrumors regular

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    i'm listening to it right now via putting safari in rosetta mode and wmp works for this station...
     
  13. d wade macrumors 65816

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    yes VLC is the best, but i've never had any problems with the Flip4Mac
     
  14. rxl125 thread starter macrumors regular

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    people who aren't having trouble with flip have ppc not intel macs
     
  15. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    :rolleyes: I have the Intel version and no problems to report. But, I've never tried to listen to "radiomat.com" or anything.

    Blame MS though. There isn't anything Apple or the Flip4Mac people can do.
     
  16. Josias macrumors 68000

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    For online radio stations neitehr Flip4Mac or Perian worked for me (especially not with .asx), but the A52 codec did.

    I have all three and I only know of two formats that I can't open:
    .swf (I use Safari)
    Matroska (it's cool, but I prefer DVD's).;)
     
  17. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Yes that does seem to be a Flip4Mac bug, however it isn't Apple's job to fix bugs in other applications.
     
  18. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Are you sure about this? WMV-10 / WMP-10 formats are not listed on their site. Is this a nightly you are talking about, or is it 0.8.6?
     
  19. danny_w macrumors 601

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    Your argument may work fine with techies like us that know the 'why', but it doesn't play well for those new switchers that have always heard that Apples "just work". In this case they don't. Never mind the reasoning, the fact remains that to them it is just another nail in Apple's coffin, since somebody convinced them to give it a try and they immediately stumbled onto this (among other things).

    This is why Apple must try harder, because they are fighting an uphill battle that, unfair as it may seem to some, is real to an end user.
     
  20. live4ever macrumors 6502a

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    Flip4Mac needs to get DRM support working - everything else has been fine for me on my PPC.
     
  21. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Sadly, not going to happen, my friend. :( And even if it did, you wouldn't be able to put those files on an iPod and use them....
     
  22. Sdashiki macrumors 68040

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    but doesnt it take at least 10x the amount of time to open as a similar sized mpg or avi?
     
  23. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    I thought long things were generally an asset in porn! :eek:
     
  24. rxl125 thread starter macrumors regular

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  25. Yuvi macrumors member

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    Try disabling "Open local files immediately" in the Flip4Mac prefs. Not perfect, but better.

    What online radio station is retarded enough to stream AC3?
     

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