free InDesign 2.0 with PowerMac purchase!

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  1. dongmin macrumors 68000

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    The promotion runs until Dec. 31.

    A great deal if you get one of the lower-end PowerMacs. InDesign 2.0 goes for $700 retail.

    Do you think Steve is trying to light a fire under Quark's belly?

    "Do OS X or die!"
     
  2. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    I also think steve, and the apple braintrust is able to see things in terms of "the future" than most others.

    Face it. It's time the design industry stop being *****-footed troglodytes and realize that, yes, indeed, ID combined with OS X on a new PowerMac will increase your productivity.

    And it's similar enough to Quark that one could EASILY adapt. Hell, I did it after using Quark for almost 6 years.

    Now? I'm all for Quark dying a quick, albeit painful death.

    Here's to apple "thinking different!"

    Here here ID2!
     
  3. sparkleytone macrumors 68020

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  4. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    it's also a very compelling reason for those who haven't seen the ID light.

    That said, this might have a lot to do with Adobe....

    Now, apple could take a lesson from Adobe and figure out a way to offer Office V.X with the machines.

    Strike a deal with MS to buy, who knows, 10k lisences of Office. And then run a switch ad (janie? are you there? Save Xmas for me!) that tacks on a "buy a powermac from the apple store between now and x.x.02 and receive a free copy of MS Office.

    maybe Make it a switcher thing-- if you switch, free office.

    Watch the macs fly off the shelves.
     
  5. iGav macrumors G3

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    Totally..... I used Quark for years before I got my mitts on Indesign...... Quark is just so early 90's...... :p :p
     
  6. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Exactly. Although there are some things i like from the early nineties (slowdive. my bloody valentine. lush) there things I hate, namely Quark, which feels like it was designed in the lates 70s

    All i have to say is logo in Illustrator copy and paste to ID no need for eps files anymo!
     
  7. iGav macrumors G3

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    Ahh yeah.... the early 90's was a particularly fine vintage for some things...... (like St Etienne, Ride, Belly etc :D ) but Quark certainly isn't one of them....... heh heh!!

    Certainly the whole cut and paste thing in Indesign is much more intuitive, Quark really is clunky in comparison..... :)
     
  8. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    Ah! Ride. Vapour Trail was an early nineties highlight. :D

    I feel you on Quark. I do some work for an ad agency as a freelancer and they swear by Qaurk. So I have it in my machine (again. i keep trying to delete it)

    It feels soooooooooo clunky. Like driving a low end car.

    Though those guys are thinking of switiching to ID soon. hope they do-- and this might be the spur.

    Think that maybe Quarks "OSX version by Xmas" plan is down the tubes, hence this giveaway coupled with the impending "no boot into 9" thing??
     
  9. loveshismac macrumors member

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    O man I hate Quark
    they must have gotten their interface design team from IBM's lotus notes.
    Plus 5 years before a major update and it still looks like the early 90's.

    I was formely trained for Quark, and since their was no compition until now, what else did u use?

    Once i used ID2, man it was like heaven. It imports quark files, works seamless with Photoshop and Illustrator, and has transparency, etc....

    I mean no more psd files tiff files and eps's.

    Just one psd, one illustrator file.

    Absolutly love it

    heers to the slow agonizing death of Quark
     
  10. dongmin thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Hey didn't the whole grunge thing happen in the early 90s?

    Quark has had one of the least intuitive user interfaces in the history of Mac apps, along with FormZ and a few others.

    Yes, when it first came out, it was a godsend, especially compared to Pagemaker. But it's been a decade since. Times change. Unfortunately Quark hasn't.
     
  11. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    and it fits seemlessly with OSX's pdf integration, and as such, makes a PDF workflow a snap. I've submitted press-quality ads frmo ID at least 5 times this week, with no problems

    It's great. And I control what they look like.
     
  12. solvs macrumors 603

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    Belly... cool. When my friend's Mom got an iMac (after a lot of convincing, she's very happy BTW), it came with a bunch of MP3s. One of them was Bellys "Feed the Tree". Nice.

    Anyway, yeah Quark sux. I like InDesign, but I'm still using 1.5. Still kicks Quarks ***. Can't wait for ID 2.
     
  13. Moxiemike macrumors 68020

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    I think ID 1.5 was a very sufficient program. 1.0 obviously was a bit green. but 1.5 and 1.52 really corrected alot of problems.

    It's amazing how mature 2.0, and how mature ID is on the whole, when you consider it hasn't been out for that long.

    I really think some hacker at Adobe has a mail forwarding system working, taking all of the customer suggestions from Quark and sending it to Adobe HQ.

    Hence ID. Obviously Quark wasn't, hasn't and will never listen.

    Cheers to a slow and painful death for Quark!

    I got to see Belly for free here in 1994, and was right up in front of Tanya Donnelly. Darn is she hot!
     
  14. solvs macrumors 603

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    I envy you.

    I was going to go see Julianna Hatfield, but something happened and I wound up not going. They did a Kick*** remake of the "Josie and the PussyCats" theme song together.

    Oh yeah, Quark still sux.
     

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  15. creativeczar macrumors newbie

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    Give free copies to printers

    I used to use Quark (five years) and then switched to InDesign two years ago. I have never looked back. Does anyone know a designer or art director who went back to Quark? Price and printers are the only two stumbling blocks. Apple knocked down one, now we need to give free copies to printers so they can find out what we've known for years.:)
     
  16. ericb88 macrumors member

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    If i buy a powermac from like macmall or something do i get indesign?
     
  17. szark macrumors 68030

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    From the mail-in coupon:

    So as long as they are a participating reseller, it should work. You just have to follow the instructions and wait 6-8 weeks...:rolleyes:
     
  18. daRAT macrumors regular

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    *sigh* I wish it was Photoshop, or even Painter, to much to ask for both? ;]

    ID2 is nothing I would use...altho i could put it on eBay ...
     
  19. mdurg macrumors newbie

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    this is good news and bad news. the good news is obvious... The bad news is that I got my new G4 yesterday. Off to the Apple site to see if I qualify...
     
  20. PretendPCuser macrumors regular

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    Quark = Feed the Tree

    Quark is in the belly of the beast. I haven't used ID (Yet) but i do have to say, Quark does seem a little long in the tooth, on it's last legs for years. Now to scrounge up all the loose change to see if i can sport a new G4...
     
  21. Malus120 macrumors regular

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    heh heh i have a differant name for this its called:
    SELL IT ON EBAY AND GET A NICE REBATE ON MY NEW G4!!!! :D :D :D
     
  22. MacFocus macrumors member

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    Availablility in Europe??

    Does anyone know if the promotion is also available in Europe?
    Would be nice since I'm going to order 3 PowerMacs this week :)
     
  23. greenplasticcup macrumors member

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    You know it looks like that potentially my office could buy an older g4 that's still new in the box (like say a dual 800 or a 933) and get the free ID too as long as I got it from an official apple reseller, no?
     
  24. iGav macrumors G3

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    Juliana Hatfield totally rules live..... I saw the Juliana Hatfield Three support Teenage Fanclub in the early 90's...... i'm still waiting for her to come touring again over to these shores........ It's unlikely she will though, because she doesn't sell records over here, and thus it just isn't viable to tour.....

    Tanya Donelly is also a highly underated artist........ she's quite the fox as well...... Belly were just so good live though...... I really miss that kind of bubblegum power pop that they used to knock out...... great vibe live......

    Oh yeah, Quark still sux.
     
  25. iGav macrumors G3

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    Re: Give free copies to printers

    Good point.... everyone I know that has dropped Quark for Indesign has never even spoken of Quark again......:p

    The problem seems to be a certain subset of designers and editors that refuse to even consider dropping Quark, mainly because of the shortcuts, and knowing Quark inside out...... (it probably took them 6 years to learn it as well.... heh heh) they're quite happy to continue using it, and see no need to change, even though Indesign would improve their productivity and arguably their creativity 2 fold..... they just seem unwilling to do that.......
     

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