Free Masonry and The Seperation of Church and State

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Kalns, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. Kalns macrumors regular

    Kalns

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    This is just a bit of a rambling really, but have you ever considered that the concept of the seperation of church and state was a means for the free masons to gain power in America? Everyone knows that many of the founding fathers and many presidents throughout history were free masons. And despite an anti masonic movement in the 1800's many masons still continued to rise to political office. Also in dealing with the masons, you essentially have a secular religious order where the highest ranking members are the preists and "annointed" ones and the lower raking members are the congregation. An organizaton such as this could easily make vast plays for power, all the while flying under the radar since their "church" is not a church of God but a church of men.

    Just theorizing. What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Most Masons I've known struck me as way too smart to even consider wanting to take over the country. Better to clean toilets.

    As far as "taking over", though, that's a great subject for late night talk radio, if you've invested in Reynolds or Alcoa...

    :), 'Rat
     
  3. mischief macrumors 68030

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    The Masons are dying off.

    Not to mention that they are certainly NOT "A church of men" organized without a higher power.Those few left alive (they've gotten so much conspiracy nuttiness aimed at them in the last half century that the average mason is 75 or so) would tell you that commitment of one's life to a higher order/power and the alignment of their lives and, to a lesser degree, society with that higher order is the basis of all they do.

    However, even now there are proportionately more Masons in the Legislature than in the general public. This is to be expected from an organization which meets the above criteria. Their historic links are to the Templars who were, historically foils for the Catholic church (even though the Church spun them as agents and eventually broke the Order's ranks and subsumed them). The Templars, in turn traced lineage of tradition to the Priests of Light in Egypt before the fall of that kingdom.
     
  4. Kalns thread starter macrumors regular

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    Aren't they also linked with the illuminati though who sought to bring down the church?
     
  5. mischief macrumors 68030

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

    The group mentioned is as tenuously historical as are "carneys".
     

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