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  1. freedom macrumors member

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    Could all members of this forum please
    enter your speculation/hopes/wishes etc.
    in this thread instead of thrashing others?

    > What will come out at MWNY?
    > When does the G4-rev X/G5 come?
    > What specs? etc.

    I´m hung over and tired of all
    posts starting out nice but ending
    with "The next G4/G5 will…"

    Let this thread thrive with speculation
    and hope/wishful thinking!
    (So that other threads might be more easily read.)

    Besides that, could someone tell me
    the exact location of:
    "where the women have nothing on but the radio"?
    :)
     
  2. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    Well, I have posted what might be the speed specs for all new computer lineups for MacWorld New York 2002 and San Fransisco.

    My point is that Apple will most likely stay with the G4 for another big Expo, because Apple probably wants to still use high-speed G3 chips in their iBooks. Once the G5 is out, it would make sense for Apple to change the processor in the iBook to a G4.

    Also, Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) will probably not be around for another few months, because I still think that some changes need to be made to the current OS X 10.1.x before Apple can say "All right, guys. OS 10.1 is finished and is fully operational. Let's move on to Jaguar and release that in a few months." I am saying this because in 10.1 there seems to be an error with connecting to the internet under dial-up after using applications extensively, such as iMovie. (What happened to me was I was censoring a profane song with iMovie, then I exported and coverted the file to an mp3. Once I tried to connect, the computer locked up for around 30 seconds.)
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  3. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    My speculation

    TiPB update before MWNY
    Possible release of G5 at MWNY with delivery in August/September
    If not a G5, then definitely a suped up G4
    OSX.2
     
  4. Biggles macrumors member

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    at MWNY we will get:

    1. A 1ghz, 1.2ghz, and a dual 1.4ghz G4. The high end models with have a 400mhz system bus, and a good video card standard (at least a geforce 4 MX). I'm not sure about the low end one: i've heard that it could stay at either a 133mhz system bus, or go to 400mhz as well.

    2. I'm hoping that with these PowerMac system jumps, we'll get a better PowerBook as well. If it does happen, im personally thinking a 867mhz PB on the high end....but that's a complete guess

    3. Some thing could happen with the iBook, but that's doubtful

    4. We could get 10.2

    5. A possible introduction of FireWire 2, and better BLuetooth support

    We will not see an actual G5 until at least MWSF '03, if not later
     
  5. CHess macrumors regular

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    Well, I try to think realistically, but find that Apple is a bit ahead of what I think they will end up doing - like putting a fast G4 and superdrive into the iMac.

    But... My guess is at MWNY:

    TiBook speed bump to 800MHz, built-in Blue tooth adapter (so you don't have to have an ugly adapter sticking out the back of the Powerbook).
    No iBook updates.
    No iMac updates.
    PowerMac speed bumps so minimum is 1GHz, 1.4 GHZ dual at max end is a safe bet. Seeing the system bus speed increase would be great, but I'm not very optomistic until MWSF03.
    $50 price drops on iPods.
    OS X.2 release.

    Prior to that, iPhoto 2;
     
  6. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    I am not pointing out anyone in particular, but I think that it may be a little too early for Apple to release iPhoto 2. Apple just released iPhoto 1, and Apple usually releases minor updates to software, before they come out with a whole new finished (and polished) project.

    Also, if Apple is looking for price drops, along with a 20GB iPod sometime after MacWorld New York, Apple will have to do much more than a $50 price drop. I would say that if the price tag of the 1.8 inch Hard Drives, then Apple will cut the price tag on the iPods by $100 for each model. However, I doubt that this is going to happen.

    As for speed increases on the PowerMacs, I am questionable about a Powermac at 1.4GHz. It is possible, but I am not sure about the DDR-RAM, Firewire 2 and 400MHz bus. My guess is that Apple wants to release all the major upgrades with a much more impressive computer than an upgrade to the G4. That is just my guess.
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  7. mrMahann macrumors newbie

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    question: do we need

    i've read how g4 can't deal w/ ddr; if this is true, then wouldn't it make sense to release the whole shebang together, ie g5/ddr/faster bus/etc?

    also, there are those who say that DDR doesn't get that much of a speed advantage; how true is this?

    i wouldnt' mind seeing a new case, perhaps aluminum or SOMETHING SHINY :eek: and smaller, perhaps the size of a IIcx/ci/q700. cubish, mebbe? then, perhaps keep the q/s case for those who need more expandability.

    thanks in advance.
     
  8. AmbitiousLemon Moderator emeritus

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    well im tired of all the speculation sinceall the level headed people seem to agree (although all the leveled headed folks were wrong about the new imac). so ill just have some fun and give a wishlist (without getting too crazy, since i could just ask for the moon)

    in no particular order:

    1) updated powerbooks before MWNY

    2) shock us all and give us a G5 powermac at mwny with ddr, rapidio, 400mhz bus, ghz in all models, firewire2, new case that is very expandable, quiet, no seagate drives they are small and expensive

    3) new monitors for powermacs with resolution bump if not a size bump

    4) price drop ipods and 20gb model at the $500 level sometime around the 1 year aniversary fo ipod

    5) new dvd studio pro version before year end

    6) 10.2 at mwny with big performance boost and no more glaring bugs

    6) small update to iphoto before year end

    7) small imovie version bump before year end

    8) major overhaul of sherlock (with 10.2)

    9) major overhaul of mail.app (with 10.2)

    10) apple web browser (cocoa or who cares) by end 2003

    11) apple branded professional audio app

    12) apple branded professional 3d app

    13) apple dump motorola, let ibm take over development past g5 and pull in new partner to for new 3 company alliance (amd? TI?)

    14) apple handheld (not going to call it a pda since it does so much more) whose main function is a wireless terminal to your desktop by end of 2004

    15) more education oriented apple software (like remote desktop)

    16) g4 ibooks with 12in screen by end 2003

    17) quicktime 6 before mwny

    18) small update to iTunes after quicktime6 to use new audio format

    19) ship the damn imac by end february 2002

    20) new apple stores in europe, japan, australia (or just a deal with large stores like the compusa deal) by end of 2003

    21) built-in bluetooth in all apple devices in next upgrade to each model

    22) tell us what gigawire is, i dont even care what it is anymore as long as you tell us

    ok so i did get a little carried away with a few of those, but im not too crazy am i? just a fun little wishlist not any serious speculation ;)
     
  9. mischief macrumors 68030

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    As I stare into my Crystal Bong..............

    I see Steve........On stage........At MWNY. He is speaking. He is saying Apple has bought Moto's PPC rights.

    No serioisly::D

    I have no idea how it will go.......too many factors at work. This is what I'd like to see:

    April/May release season:

    X.2

    MWNY:

    Bluetooth added to all models.

    Apple and IBM partner to purchase PPC away from Moto.

    Dual IBM produced G4 Apollo's in all Towers.

    New Tower case and Mobo.

    iDVD2


    Winter season:

    New iPods.

    iPhoto 2

    iSurf

    All models standard w/Airport equipped.


    MWSF '03:

    G5 Tower introduced. All DP line, Rapid I/O , Firewire2, 6RAM slots.
     
  10. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Re: As I stare into my Crystal Bong..............

    What, may I ask is 'iSurf'
     
  11. mischief macrumors 68030

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    iSurf:

    iSurf is a product I want to see fill out the i-Apps. It's an Apple browser to replace IE. Apple's contract to bundle IE is up this summer and I think having a Browser that's more native to X would be a real good thing.
     
  12. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Re: iSurf:

    oooh!:eek:

    What if they just expanded Sherlock? Its already got a lot of iFunctionality.

    I'd love to see a mac browser, it would give us one more step away from MS. But I don't see that happening till some time in 03, if then. And how would Bill G. take it? MS is trying to play nice with Apple. iSurf comes along and things could get messy there.
     
  13. cb911 macrumors 601

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    there will definitely be a TiBook update before MWNY. a speed increase and hopefully more video RAM.
     
  14. Beej macrumors 68020

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    I would be ecstatic to see a G5 before the end of the year.

    I'd be annoyed if we didn't see 10.2 before the end of the year.

    As for everything else, new stuff is good, but I'm not dying to see anything in particular.
     
  15. cb911 macrumors 601

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    i'm not sure about G5 before the end of the year. more likely MWNY 2003. i just hope we don't have to wait that long for a TiBook.
     
  16. krossfyter macrumors 601

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    iSurf!!!

    now thats golden.


    can i see in your crystal bong mischief?
     
  17. powerbook macrumors newbie

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    My hopes

    New G4 at MWNY with DDR RAM and 1.2 and 1.4 ghz processors, 100gb hd on high end models.
    The other thing will be a new TiBook at 900mhz.
    iTunes 2 would be nice.
     
  19. AmbitiousLemon Moderator emeritus

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    if apple waits until MWNY for a powerbook update then wouldnt it have been a full year before an update? That seems rather crazy, so im thinking the only reason they would wait a year to update the darn thing is if they have something very neat in the works that required some extra time.

    what do you guys think?
     
  20. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Anyone know when they came out with the last update? I think it was around MWNY, because I got mine in October, but that's still a few months from July.

    But it really puts it in perspective, to have to wait a year for an upgrade, especially in the top of the line model, is a little much. I'm hoping for WWDC now, in May. Last year it was the new iBook:D, so there is precedence.
     
  21. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    Being selfish, all I really want is an upgraded faster powerbook.

    That being said, either dumping motorola or sticking a hot poker up their tail pipes to get them moving a little faster would be nice.
     
  22. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    I'm thinking WWDC in May might see a bunch of new stuff. Last year we got a new iBook, all LCD displays, OSX shipping on all machines. I just hope Jobs gives the keynote, that would sinch it.
     
  23. cb911 macrumors 601

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    WWDC sounds like a good time for Apple to update the TiBook. May is sort of in-between MWSF and MWNY, and i read somewhere that Apple is trying to have a steady release of products to keep its name out there in amongst the general public.
    please be a updated TiBook at WWDC, even if it is only a small speed-bump!
     
  24. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    The Powerbook 550 and 667 w/o Combo Drives came out in August. However, if you bought one just then and wanted a combo drive, you got busted, because Apple squeezed in the Combo Drive I think a little over a month later.

    As for a small speed bump, how little do you mean? Apple usually does around 150MHz bumps on their products. And an update to 750MHz might not be enough to support Apple's sales with the Powerbooks. Don't foreget, however, that the low end model might be around 100 to 150MHz slower than that. So by creating a Powerbook with a low-end of 600 or 650MHz and keeping the price tag at around $2000 consumers will want to purchase the iBook 600MHz. Even the 12 inch screen version sells for around $1400 or $1500.
     
  25. freedom thread starter macrumors member

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    Ohlalalalala!

    Hey this is actually working!

    Love to read your posts!
    I totally agree with tibooks at wwdc,
    733 lowend and up.

    Keep speculating…
    I´ll keep looking through my
    clay chillum :)

    That browser idea is fabulous, wwdc/mwny?
     

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