G4 PowerMac Price Cut!!!

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  1. macktheknife macrumors 6502a

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  2. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Yep, I'd have to agree. You should post this in the Apple Rumors section, its big. They did the exact same thing right before they brought out the G4 way back. I remember seeing the rebate on the B/W G3s right before and commenting on the fact that they were trying to get rid of the extra machines to make room for something new. I just hope its more than a speed bumped, bus tweak, memory upgraded G4.
     
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    Ummmm....

    Yea, 300 dollars back when you buy a 3,000 dollar monitor....
     
  4. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Re: Ummmm....

    A rebate is a rebate, don't knock it. It still means somethings up, besides look at the timing. When does it end?
     
  5. MacAztec macrumors 68040

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    Rebate....

    That rebate has been out since Mac World Tokyo. The same thing before MWT, but it was a 500 dollar savings. Its nothing.
     
  6. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    Re: Rebate....

    It's a new one dude. Check the link, it's not the same deal as the one where you buy the display too.

    Kinda coincidental that it ends on July 7th...don't you think?
     
  7. macktheknife thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Not the same rebate

    Yeah, this isn't the flat screen rebate. This is a straight $300 ($200 depending on the model) rebate for a G4 PowerMac. There is no doubt in my mind they're clearing inventory. So what will Mr. J introduce? I think it'll be a G5 because it were just another speedbump, Apple wouldn't be so aggressive in offering such rebates.

    Just a thought . . .
     
  8. DannyZR2 macrumors 6502

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    HOLY Banannas!!!

    I've been considering a refurbed DP800 or a 933.. now I can get the latter for 1999!!!!! sweet !!!!

    Anyone know if it applies to Refurbed units!!!???
     
  9. DannyZR2 macrumors 6502

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    arggh.... nope.. doesn't apply to used/refurbished or demos..

    but this prices would put it BELOW the refurb price apple store has at 2049..
    NEW for $1999!

    oh yeah!
     
  10. TyleRomeo macrumors 6502a

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    nie find definately post this in the article discussion section. I can smell something really amazing coming this July
     
  11. cb911 macrumors 601

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    the $300 rebate is nothing. THERE WILL BE NO G5!!!!!!
     
  12. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    That's a lot of exclamation points there...care to elaborate?
     
  13. MacAztec macrumors 68040

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    Look...

    Check the Apple Developer Store. You can get a PowerMac 933 for 1579. A Powerbook 667 (new model) for 1999.
     
  14. eirik macrumors regular

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    Keep your pants on!

    There are two reasons for offering rebates/discounts. This thread has only discussed one of them. First, as discussed, a maker might cut prices to clear out inventory in preparation for a product update. But second, a maker might simply wish to push product faster because sales are sluggish and the maker is trying to make or beat their earnings forecast.

    That said, I hope this is due to number one. If it isn't, I may have to do a number two myself. :eek:

    Eirik
     
  15. kaneda macrumors regular

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    G5

    $300 rebate for a G4 powermac purchase only! you don't need to buy a monitor to get $300 rebate....

    I am starting to smeeeeelllll G5!!!!
     
  16. DannyZR2 macrumors 6502

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    I found that the 933 PM is still $1839 on the develeper page.. where do you see 1537???

    anyway.. okay.. with education discout, swap the gf4mx for the ati 7500 and drop the modem

    the 933/256/60/SuperDrive is $2040.00
    subtract $300 rebate!

    $1740.00!!!!

    HOw sweet is that!!!!!!!!!

    BUT.. there has GOT to be something hug coming.. at least a redesigned mobo.. (ebay pics) 1394b and others must be on the way.. apple is clearing the way by upgrading everything else first! .. ibook. tibook. imac..... new emac... what about powermac??

    when's the last BIG conference that updated the PowerMacs? manypeople questioned MWSF.. only got an iMac update.. no PowerMacs until later.. STeve is giong to give the power users something BIG for this event.. and nothing is gonna steal the show .. Powermac upgrades only! (And this time, no one can complain about other lines not getting updated.. that's why their doing that part NOW!)


    Instead of introducing the new product at MW, like they did with the iMacG4.. then updating other stuff.. like they did with the new PowerMacs (current config) this time.. their giving EVERY body there new product and saving the Big stuff for the Expo.

    my .02
     
  17. Inhale420 macrumors regular

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    Re: Keep your pants on!

    just came back from a number two. it wasn't pretty.
     
  18. macktheknife thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    My thoughts

    (I'd accidentally posted this reply as a new thread. Sorry!)

    Again, I don't know whether Apple will introduce a G5 this July, but I will say that with such aggressive rebates being offered, something major is on the horizon. Of course, clearing inventory is definitely a rationale, since sales of Apple's professional line of products (PowerMac and PowerBook) were sluggish during the first quarter of 2002 as CFO Fred Anderson reported during Apple's 1Q02 earnings conference call.

    Nevertheless, my bet is on something really big for MWNY. The rack server (to be introduced this Tuesday) may or may not sport a G4 processor (since I have no idea whether it matches up to other servers in processing power), and if it does not, what else can it be? It will definitely give an indication of what Apple has up its sleeves. Anyhow, Apple won't want to clear inventory just for the sake of energizing sales: to clear inventory so aggressively means that something else will take the G4's place.

    Again, just my thoughts . . .
     
  19. whfsdude macrumors 6502a

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    I have a feeling we will see a quad G4 server and G5 powermacs MWNY. Also, maybe a server update, new iBooks, Ti Books and iMac with FW 2 all at MWNY.

    And don't foget iMasturbate (keyboard/mouse/screen cover) :p
     
  20. lucs macrumors member

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    rebates

    iMasturbate....yo thats sick dude

    Well, we all know what rebates mean.....i am really not sure about G5s, otherwise we would have seen a lot of other rumors from motorola, or ibm for that matter, but we've been kept in the dark...

    what i definitely think is gonna happen is a new case design and a new mobo, with ddr ram, faster bus and all that crap

    I really don't know whats gonna happen, Apple always succeeds in surprising us (to the better or worse), but that is what i think is logical.

    plus, this is really unlikely, but i would love to see a price cut in the lcds...but its as unlikely as Dave Matthews band not being commercial whores providing bad music for the delight of stupid spoiled upper middle class suburban preteens.
     
  21. eirik macrumors regular

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    Eirik's thoughts

    Why wouldn't Apple offer rebates just to push product (clear inventory)? Its what every other seller of any product or service does when sales are short of forecasts or profitable volume. Doing so is a practical necessity.

    But let me offer a rationale for why this might mean a PowerMac update. When Apple unveils its racked servers, if they contain DDR, a faster bus, and/or faster CPU's (G4 or G5), then this would elevate expectations among prospective PowerMac buyers, such as myself, that the PowerMac is due for an update soon.

    Those like me would postpone our PowerMac purchase until at least MWNY or a PowerMac update sooner than MWNY, slowing PowerMac sales further.

    To a corporation, a dollar of sales in May is worth more than a dollar of sales in July, albeit it can be a negligible difference. This can be due to just the time value of money. Also, if a new product update causes a surge in sales that lasts maybe eight months, then a May release would mean seven full months of sales in the current year. If Apple releases a new product in July (first week), then Apple realizes five full (almost) months of sales for the year. But since Apple's fiscal calender begins in October, Apple is even more motivated to release a product update sooner rather than later. That is, Apple would enjoy a greater advantage from releasing the product as soon as it is available rather than postponing the release to coincide with MWNY.

    Why is the current fiscal year so important to a corporation? The stock market tends to be myopic, especially in times of less than stellar performance. The computer industry is still suffering, compared to prior years. Apple is heavily motivated to make the most of its earnings this year so as to earn the status from Wall Street as that of the 'darling of the computer industry'. I've little doubt that SJ covets that status.

    One final point about timing, the more Apple postpones a product release, the greater the potential for incurring supply problems that would hurt sales. Now, this is despite the obvious advantage of waiting because doing so affords more time to prepare the logistics of the release. However, if the product is hot, that is, hotter than forecasted, as was the new iMac, then logistics would require time to adjust to the higher than expected volume. Consequently, sales for the present fiscal year would be missed because waiting ate up time that would have been used to adjust to higher than anticipated product demand.

    Another point about product releases, an expo attracts the attention of many in the media and industry for an extended period of time. How much time do you really need to profess the value and wonders of a PowerMac? Not much, its not that complicated a concept these days as everyone knows what CPU's, RAM, hard drives, and even bus speeds.

    So, does a MacWorld help Apple sell more PowerMac's? Does releasing a PowerMac with a MacWorld generate more positive press for Apple over the course of the year than doing so separately? No, on both points!

    Releasing major pieces of hardware helps generate attention for MacWorld more so than the contrary. But MacWorld is a staple of the industry and I would argue adds less to the volume of sales as many people presume.

    If I were SJ, I would still release major pieces of hardware and software at MacWorld, but not exclusively, just enough to maintain the awe of a Macworld. Instead, I would employ MacWorld to showcase new concepts, things that require more attention from the news media than is required to assess a new PowerMac.

    For example, if Apple enters the Moxi/Tivo-like world combined with Jini that internetworks the entire household, placing the Mac(s) at the heart of the home, that complex concept requires more attention from the media and industry folk to truly understand and appreciate the new concept/product-family so that they can effectively extoll the virtues of said product-family to the rest of the world.

    So, if Apple has the PowerMac update ready, they ought to release it as soon as it can. If the rack server has any of the 'new' features (mentioned above) and the PowerMac update is not yet ready for release, then Apple shouldn't release the rack until the PowerMac can be released very shortly afterwards, else, PowerMac sales would worsen until the release finally occurs. So, if my reasoning is aligned with that of Apple decision-makers, then the rack release could be very telling.

    Well, I hope you had a bagged lunch while you read this novel.

    Eirik
     
  22. Mr_Mac_UK macrumors newbie

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    I don't think the price drop will to be hit profit targets. Apple will need to sell roughtly double the number of PowerMacs to make the same profit now!

    It has to be to clear the channel. There won't be a big announcment on the 14th on the PM side. There isn't enough time to clear channel!!!

    G5s will come out at MWNY - I have good sources!!! but then again thats what everyone says
     
  23. djniche macrumors regular

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    rebates are for sure a sign of speed bumps or a G5
    the whole line of mac are almost updated.. only missing the ibook which we might even see updated along with the rack server tomorrow.

    All this leading to NY!! I'm expecting Big news in July.
     
  24. Geert macrumors 6502a

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    This means UPDATES!!!
    Great, I love updates. Let us hope that we have DDR and stuff.
     
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