Moto's site says nothing about an MPC line chip in the 8xxx series that isn't an embedded comm processor. Perhaps we've all been ignoring the possibility that IBM's "super G3" that we found a while back will be G5. I think Moto may sell out of it's PPC holdings for the Desktop and concentrate on what they can sell to Cisco and Sun. So where does this leave us? It means we lose Altivec or see it under liscence on an IBM CPU. It means we get enough CPU's to really have some fun. It means the rumors of a G5 and an Athlon on the same Mobo make a bit more sense.