This a pretty weak rumor, but a rumor nonetheless. An Apple techie from Cupertino recently confirmed with me that G5'S are being tested on a pretty large scale in desktops there at the Apple HQ. The only thing this did for me was help to establish a timeline, and to confirm that they finally have a G5 architecture, and that G5's are desktop chips, not handheld chips like others were speculating. I really hope we see G5's by the end of the year. I Really really hope we do....even though I still guess MWSF '03 as the release.