German woman taken hostage

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  1. 840quadra Moderator

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    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,2145,12215_pg_0,00.html

    I pray for her safe return, and hope this type of "communication" by these terrorists does not continue into the future.
     
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    Why should Berlin stop co-operating with the Iraqi government? Have they been carrying WMD or doing lots of evil things recently?

    Maybe people should stop co-operating with those nasty Germans as well. But oh wait, that wouldn't be right, right??
     
  3. sebisworld macrumors 6502

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    "German woman taken hostage"
    "Germans elect first woman chancellor!"

    Am I the only one seeing the connection?
     
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    I hope you didn't just point it out because I still don't see it. :confused:
     
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    Maybe the Grand Coalition will be short lived after all! I guess if Angies stays away from Iraq though...
     
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    The reason being that our security specialists train Iraqi police forces outside of Iraq. Insurgents sure don't like like countries that train the police out to get them... I'd say we go in there with the KSK and get her out. And while we're there we just make sure that don't try this **** again. Stuff like this makes me mad. It's not like we're involved in the war, sending weapons, or anything, we even opposed the entire war... and as if we'd stop training the Iraqi police if they kill one person...
     
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    Germany is not even actively participating in the war. This doesn't make sense at all. Shows how irrational the terrorists can be. I hope they get that woman out safely. I think Iraq was a mistake, but this shows the world how truly demented and irrational the terrorists truly are.
     
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    I think it's more "stupid" than "irrational"
     
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    And why we cannot stop until all terrorists are removed from the face of the planet! There is no negotiation, no exception.

    Everyone is at risk. Even those countries who didn't actively participate are targets as we have seen.

    Terrorists are not militants. They are not insurgents. They are not rebels. They are not in uniform. They have no honor. Instead of attacking primarily military targets they are going after soft targets including women and children. This is a true sign of a demented mind that must be stopped. In other words, a terrorist.

    Thankfully, some leaders in this world understand what is truly at stake and have taken the appropriate action.

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    And it should!

    Terrorists are affecting the freedoms that free people enjoy around the world.

    Terrorism is like a cancer that is spreading and must be eliminated.

    The fight against terrorism is a fight for freedom and way of life.

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  11. redAPPLE macrumors 68030

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    i said it once, i will say it again. religion will kill us all.

    is this the religion forum? *looks confused*
     
  12. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    Well, it's not religion itself. It's some people who see what they want to see in part of a particular religion (pick any of the major western ones) and take that to violent extremes (bombing abortion clinics, flying planes into buildings, beheading people, etc.). The people are the problem.

    I guess we'll never be stopping then, because the way things are going now, there will be plenty of terrorists for years to come.

    And with that, we should probably take a step back and breathe a bit before this gets tossed into Politics.
     
  13. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    OK, but who are the terrorists, who are not?
     
  14. Tymmz macrumors 65816

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    What makes you think these people are terrorists and not just some criminals who want to get some ca$h? Germany already paid good money in typical situations.

    Let's all hope the best for everybody.
     
  15. 840quadra thread starter Moderator

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    Agreed!
     
  16. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Maybe this will help clarify for you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist

    Many of us around the world enjoy living in freedom. Terrorists threaten this freedom -- this way of life.

    The terrorist mindset is different from the common free man. You cannot deal with them as you would a common free man. Their values are different. That is why you cannot negotiate with them. To think so, is folly and a waste of time. They are a cancer that must be eliminated so that free men can live in and enjoy freedom.

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    And that is why Germans are now targeted. Once you negotiate by paying money it is a sign of weakness which in turn is exploited by the terrorists.

    This is not rocket science guys. Just proven methodology.

    Remember, terrorists are not like us the common free man and woman. Their mindset is totally different.

    You got that right!

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  18. OutThere macrumors 603

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    ----

    Terrorist do not have combative or aggressive characters in the service of their religious cause? I think not.

    I'm pretty sure the terrorists blowing up car bombs in Iraq are rebelling against the newly established government and what it embodies.

    Last I checked, terrorists refused allegiance to the United States and other world powers, and opposed them by force.


    I won't deny that terrorists have no honor and are not in uniform, but I think that you should check your background before putting random names to those who we supposedly are at war against. Terrorists work to rebel against a government in a militant fashion by striking fear into the nation's populace, much as the current administration of the US has maneuvered the country into submission by scaring them with the idea that terrorists could attack at any time.

    "Do not go forth to-day: call it my fear
    That keeps you in the house, and not your own." Calpurnia, Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
     
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    And yet, the U.S. hasn't paid them off, but they still take U.S. citizens hostage...

    You really love to generalize don't you?
     
  20. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    So why did we never storm Northern Ireland and take out all the terrorists there and imprison all the Americans who gave money to the IRA? We sure weren't interested in freedom then, only some twisted sense of hitting back at our former overlords. Americans are just as capable of terror as any other group so get off your soapbox and step out of your ivory tower. The world can't be defined by Republican talking points.

    Terrorists have existed for eons and to claim that it is a spreading cancer is like ludicrous. It's an unfortunate aspect of life. There will always be groups of the disgruntled who feel that terror is their only weapon.
     
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    "And to win this fight against those evil men there is no human right that we shall not be willing to give up!"


    Honestly, this is just too good to be true. You do not even try to acknowledge on how many levels you are generalizing, indifferent, ignorant and simply wrong. Not even talking about other positions.
    You may look up all these terms on the wikipedia website as I assume that you are using neither Websters nor the Oxford dictionary.
     
  22. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Imagine if we had...
    Well, when one has first hand knowledge of something, then one tends to look at things a bit differently than a definition in a book or what's on a web site.

    You can read all the books you want on how to fly an airplane, but that doesn't mean you can fly one.

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  23. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    MLOL!

    I won't bother taking the time to bother answering your other comments as this is so absurb.

    If you want to become informed, you might want to check info about the spread of terrorism around the world via Muslim and other extremists.

    Sushi
     
  24. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Fine, then name one place in the free world where life/lifestyle has not changed after a terrorist attack.

    Go ahead. Name one.

    Don't worry, I won't hold my breath! :eek: :D

    BTW, until this thread, I have never looked at Wikipedia, or a dictionary for my information. I get it elsewhere.

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    I think that the Word Trade Center bombing a few years before 911, and 911 itself illustrated what can happen.

    We seem to forget the impact of 911.

    Then again, we seem to forget about attacks that occur in other countries as well.

    Sometimes I think that the US government is too mum on our successes.

    Sushi
     

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