going back to Tiger

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by zoran, Jan 2, 2011.

  1. macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2005
    1. Im thinking to go back from Leopard to Tiger on my PowerBookG4 1.67GHZ, yes i think it might be faster, and to be honest why shouldnt it be. I mean PowerPc cpus should be optimised for Tiger and not Leopard, am i not right?

    2. Whats the procedure to go back from Leopard to Tiger, i have the Tiger dvd, what should i do to make the "go back" transition?
  2. macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    Did you do a clean install of Leopard? By that I mean, did you erase your hard drive and install Leopard? If you didn't do it that way, it may cause Leopard to run slowly.

    If you want to go back to Tiger, I would erase the hard drive and then install.
  3. macrumors 68040


    Oct 23, 2006
    I was under the impression that the OS was designed to work with the CPU rather than the CPU designed for an OS.
  4. thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2005
    Intresting point but how certain are you about this, and how can i know?
    I have no idea if it was erased and then installed, it was given to me this way, how can i know?

    How would i do this?
  5. macrumors 68000


    Jul 25, 2008
    Wichita KS
    I wouldn't do it. Honestly, Leopard is great on PowerPC. Software support for Tiger and security updates are pretty much done for. You're also stuck with old versions of iTunes and web browsers. The only systems I still run Tiger on are G3's and my TiBooks. I've even got Leopard on my 500MHz Cube.
  6. thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2005
    Thanx for the info, and its not that i dont trust you but are there any speed ratings for those two OS on PowerPc cpus, maybe then ill sort this thing out
  7. macrumors regular


    Jul 3, 2006
    How did you install Leopard on a 500MHz Cube?
  8. macrumors 68040


    Aug 21, 2004
    I'm sure he took the hard drive out of the machine and did it through an external or some other such hack...

    but to the OP

    Leopard is fine on PPC machines.

    The trick is maxed ram and maxed hard drive speeds PLUS disabling DASHBOARD.

    Dashboard, even in Tiger, sucks up CPU.
  9. macrumors 68000


    Jul 25, 2008
    Wichita KS
    Booted the Cube to target disk mode and installed it from my 12" Powerbook. Its not fast by any means, but 1.5GB of RAM, 7200rpm drive, and a Radeon 7500 instead of the old Rage 128 makes it doable.
  10. thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2005
    California thanx for the contribution, but...
    1. Are there any measurements in numbers certifying this "Dashboard suck up" that you say, cause i did disable it in a G5 1.8GHZ that runs Tiger and i noticed nothing different.
    2. Where can i measure this memory differentation as you claim?
  11. macrumors 68040

    Feb 17, 2008
    Have you got a Leopard DVD? I'd advise backing up your data and fully wiping your hard drive then installing from fresh. As Lee said, the odds are whoever installed Leopard performed an upgrade rather than a fresh install. In fact even if they didn't, a fresh install should still make some difference. If that doesn't make a difference then just wipe and install Tiger. Also how much RAM does the machine have? I've always found Leopard faster than Tiger as long as you have a decent amount of memory.

    Boot off the disk (System Preferences - Start Up Disk, or hold down Alt at startup), find the option to erase the disk (erase and install is it?).
  12. thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2005
    my memory at the moment is 1GB DDR SDRAM

    so regarding the installation all is done by the "startup OSX dvd" both erasing and installing naturally! right?
  13. macrumors 68000

    Feb 13, 2009
    United Kingdom
    Id definitely try to boost the RAM if you can - my 1.67 PowerBook G4 seemed sluggish in 10.5 with 512MB RAM (but still useable), but now it has 1.5GB, it screams, I definitely would put 10.5 on it, it runs as well as Tiger if you clean install, otherwise, as said above, it may run very very slowly.
  14. macrumors 68000

    tom vilsack

    Nov 20, 2010
    ladner cdn
    -i take it you only have tiger dvd not leopard?

    -i would try this

    -download carbon copy and make image of your present system (http://bombich.com/index.html)
    -save image to external usb stick/harddrive ect (make sure drive is mac osx journaled...or image wont be seen by disk utility if you try and reimage)
    -install osx tiger doing clean install (erase and option to write zero's to harddrive)
    -then if you can live with some older versions of software and system runs good...you should be ok
    -if you can't live without leopard,and dont have means to buy/get fresh copy...just reimage using tiger dvd and use disk utility to reimage the image you saved on usb/portable harddrive



    here are some tricks to make tiger run faster

    -in dock use scale effects and no mag or animate...also turn wallpaper off and use colored
    -turn off dashboard and turn off spotlight,if has bluetooth turn that also off

    To turn Dashboard off: use terminal
    defaults write com.apple.dashboard mcx-disabled -boolean YES

    You have to restart the Dock after making either change for it to take effect:
    killall Dock

    To turn Spotlight off: use terminal

    cd /etc
    sudo nano hostconfig

    Then to get rid of the existing index, run these two commands
    sudo mdutil -i off /
    sudo mdutil -E /

    reboot computer

    remove spotlight icon

    1. As an administrator, navigate to /System/Library/CoreServices, and delete Search.bundle. If you think might want to re-enable it later, just move it somewhere else or rename it.
    2. Open up the Activity Monitor and force quit SystemUIServer. When it reopens, your menu bar will be Spotlight free.

    install camino browser and lastest version of flash
    note in camino you can set to block flash and web adverts

    note: with tiger 10.4.11 updates will not give you latest itunes so google for version 9.2.1 (5)

    good luck
  15. macrumors 68040


    Aug 21, 2004
    "I" didn't "claim" anything about Dashboard, just passed on common knowledge about Dashboard sucking up CPU.

    Use your Activity monitor to see what Dashboard does.

    If you are running that G5 1.8ghz (single) with anything less than maximum ram (if you have a G5 iMac, then it's two gigs of ram, if you have a G5 1.8ghz Powermac then it is eight gigs of ram) you will disappointed. I had the 1.8ghz G5 Powermac single and shoot, that was a SLOW machine.

    Activity Monitor tells you how much CPU is being eaten up and by what.

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