Good guys with guns fail to stop bad guys with guns

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    yg17

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    Tragic.

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-spoke-white-supremacy-and-desire-kill-police

    And the bad guys with guns seem to be associated with the tea party. I'm shocked! :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    All the internet & phone surveillance by the US government and yet the risk from these two was not picked up? :rolleyes: We have to get used to the idea that terrorism is unavoidable and stop messing about with curtailing our freedoms to prevent the inevitable. Time to overturn the 'Patriot' Act's worst excesses in regard to government snooping...
     
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    Nice way to try to change the subject to something that everyone is equally annoyed at in order to avoid discussing the fact that good guys with guns were not able to stop bad guys with guns.
     
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    Swastikas had been around for years, long before the nazi party, but if I was walking around with a swastika on my shirt, wouldn't you assume that I'm a neo-nazi?

    The Tea Party has adopted the don't tread on me flag as a symbol of their party, so I think it's pretty safe to assume that someone waving that flag around is a supporter of the tea party.
     
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    You'd be surprised how many people fail at basic American history but claim to be enlightened and intellectual...

    And it's pretty obvious since the cops were armed and it made no difference that all police officers don't need guns. Pepper spray would be better.
     
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    citizenzen

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    :confused:

    They didn't claim the Tea Party invented the flag.
     
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    The United States Navy Flag from 1770. On my 5th Great-Grandfathers Navy Sailing vessel.

    just saying'.

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    Technarchy

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    Must be in the tea party...according to some...
     
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    does he know he is a tea party member by default? :confused:
     
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    It's suggested that the Tea Party is adopting a historic symbol.

    There's no need to twist it into something that it's not.
     
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    That's exactly what it is. An old historic symbol from the pre-revolution period.

    The "Tea Party" Stole it from the Government.

    Irony !!

    :D
     
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    like it was done below?

     
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    I just waved it in your face dude. I do NOT like the Tea Party.

    I DO like my Navy heritage.
     
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    Your 1770 date is highly suspect. What's the source for this date?
     
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    Ok. I was off a few years .

    1775.

    The traditional Jack.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Navy_Jack

    "In 1778, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin wrote a letter to the Ambassador of the Kingdom of Sicily, thanking him for allowing entry of American ships into Sicilian ports. The letter describes the American flag according to the 1777 Flag Resolution, but also describes a flag of "South Carolina, a rattlesnake, in the middle of the thirteen stripes."[2]"
     
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    TEA party got hijacked, sadly by the GOP :mad:
     
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    "Why, these aren't SS runes, I just like the Norse alphabet!"

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Fixed that for ya.

    ;)
     
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    Most sources say something to the effect that the "historically probable" first naval jack didn't have the snake. ("There is little evidence this jack had the rattlesnake or motto as traditionally depicted").

    In other words, the navy jack that saw first use during the Revolution probably looked like this:

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    From: First Naval Jack: History

    However, the jack has traditionally been depicted as consisting of thirteen red and white stripes charged with an uncoiled rattlesnake and the motto "Dont [sic] Tread on Me"; this tradition dates at least back to 1880, when this design appeared in a color plate in Admiral George Henry Preble's influential History of the Flag of the United States. Recent scholarship, however, has demonstrated that this inferred design never actually existed but "was a 19th-century mistake based on an erroneous 1776 engraving".
     
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    Read the whole story bro. From that same article :

    "In 1778, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin wrote a letter to the Ambassador of the Kingdom of Sicily, thanking him for allowing entry of American ships into Sicilian ports. The letter describes the American flag according to the 1777 Flag Resolution, but also describes a flag of "South Carolina, a rattlesnake, in the middle of the thirteen stripes."[2]"


    That flag was actually S. Carolina
    It was flown alongside the Union Jack around the time the U.S. created the Navy.

    My 5th Great-Grandfather was a Captain on the ship. Undoubtably the Navy enlisted private ships to start the Navy.

    BTW. My ancestor went down with that ship when it was sunk.

    You're Welcome.

    :)
     
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    I was entertained by the comment. :) What should we discuss in particular? Too many people with guns, or cops not vigilantly scanning their horizon for danger at all times? ;)
     
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    Technarchy

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    How about this flag? Is this one still acceptable...or Tea Party too.

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    jkcerda

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    Them are fighting words there mister :D

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    how about guns giving cops a false sense of security? same would apply to a person with a CCW.
     
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    Cops get oodles of training that CCW carriers never do.
     

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