Good school for international relations?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Kingsly, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Kingsly macrumors 68040


    When (er, 'if') I go to USC for Film I would also like to minor [or major, or whatever] in International Relations or Political Science. Are they a good school for that? My options are really wide open at this point, so alternate suggestions are more than welcome.


    (I would love to study abroad, as well) :)
  2. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    Here at the University of Wollongong I've found it fantastic for "International Relations" ;) :D wink-wink nudge-nudge...
  3. iSaint macrumors 603


    May 26, 2004
    South Mississippi y'all, near the water!
    When I was in college, we studied abroad more than once a day I tells ya!
  4. celebrian23 macrumors 65816


    Mar 12, 2006
    Under the sun
  5. Kingsly thread starter macrumors 68040


    Really? I always thought it was a medical school
    *cue wikipedia*

    I feel stupid... :eek:

    Really though, I never considered Johns Hopkins, but now its very near the top of my list!
    I also found Università degli Studi di Roma La Sapienza looks quite interesting.

    Chundles, you're such a funny guy! I was so consumed by emotions that I didn't even laugh. :cool:

  6. ChePibe macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2005
    APSIA schools

    Look up schools that are members of the Association of Professional Schools of International Affairs (APSIA).

    Do this especially if you're serious about an International Relations education. What do you plan to do with it? Work in government, or is it mostly because of a desire to be a more educated citizen? Either goal is entirely respectable, but you should consider your priorities. Many of these programs are very expensive and lead to fairly low paying jobs.

    If you're not actually going to work in the field, the poli sci program wherever you are should be sufficient. If you are planning to work in the field, I would highly recommend (in no particular order):

    Georgetown (known as the "West Point" of the Foreign Service)
    George Washington
    Johns Hopkins (its program has a quantitative focus - hope you like math)
    USC (your chosen school just happens to be an APSIA school)

    If you're serious about an IR degree, learn a foreign language and spend time overseas. Look into work with the State Department - I've done an internship with them and it was an excellent experience. They take very good care of their employees, even lowly interns ;)
  7. amateurmacfreak macrumors 6502a


    Sep 8, 2005
    I suggest George Washington. Because my RC at camp is majoring in foreign affairs with a focus on Asian studies. :D
    But USC should be sufficent, I'd think.... and gosh, I know so many teens who want to go there for film....
  8. livingfortoday macrumors 68030

    Nov 17, 2004
    The Msp
    Ah, I had to choose between American University and the University of Miami back in the day when I wanted to study IR. Ended up going with UM, just 'cause I could double major in IR and Economics. I don't recommend UM now, since they disbanded the IR department, but ya know.

    I mention all this because as a previous poster said, unless you're completely dedicated to doing just IR, you'd be much better served looking for a program that will let you do IR and something else as well.
  9. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    What? I'm serious. My Uni is about 30% international students (asia, USA, Canada, England, Middle East, all over).

    Ah well, at least I got a comment, the guy who posted after me made a more subtle and funnier joke (in my opinion) and he didn't even rate a mention.
  10. Kingsly thread starter macrumors 68040


    The question one should ask is: how many government officials are educated citizens?
    I want to eventually run for public office, as well as be educated in the goings on in the world I live.
    Have you SEEN my location? :D
    I've got the foreign language and overseas time covered. As for internships at State: I was looking into that at one time, it still seems like a good idea.

    Today my plan is (it changes often!)
    Major: IR/History/something to that effect
    Minor: Film


    USC: Film
    Somewhere else: [Università degli Studi di Roma La Sapienza/ Georgetown/etc.] IR/History/ something to that effect

    In case anyone cares, I am graduating CC with AA's in film and history (and possibly english, if it catches my fancy)
  11. MacFan25863 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 20, 2004
    My girlfriend is starting at UC Davis next year, majoring in International Relations. Apparently they have a good program...but she's considering changing her major to Poly Sci...
  12. Tanglewood macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2006
    San Diego, CA
  13. webcookie macrumors member

    Feb 23, 2006
    Brava Centauri
    I used to be an IR major. My advisor said SUNY Binghamton has a good program.
  14. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a


    Apr 22, 2004
    San Diego, CA

    I'm there, and let me tell you, the School of Foreign Service is pretty darn good (although I'm not in it; I'm not into that sort of thing). There's a great program and we get great speakers i.e. Colin Powell, Tony Blair, etc., etc. Plus people like George Tenet and Madeline Albright are professors. Can't get much better than that.
  15. blackfox macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2003
    Not that I'd have a clue how you'd manage to make it work, but back-in-the-day™ I considered the University of Toronto for IR and vaguely film/video-related studies.

    I haven't a clue how they rate these days in either dept, and I admit back then I was interested in just going to Toronto - but thought I'd suggest nonetheless...
  16. Macmaniac macrumors 68040


    Syracuse has one of the top rated Public Affairs programs in the US. The Maxwell school is very highly rated, although I am not sure if this is in your area per se. Syracuse also has the Newhouse School, which is probably one of the best communications programs in the Northeast for Film, TV, etc.
  17. e²Studios macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2005

    Pfft USC.. booo Go bruins!!

    If you are going to pay to go to film school at least go to the best one

  18. Kingsly thread starter macrumors 68040


    yeah, ONLY $6000/yr is looking mighty inviting right now.

    But, my grandfather is alumni of the USC film school and I have friends that go there. And by the way, as good as UCLA is (and don't get me wrong, its reallly great) I think USC is better.
  19. ChePibe macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2005
    Glad you've got foreign experience and language knowledge under your belt! They're a BIG help.

    The people I worked with in the State Department were great - hardcore Americans with excellent educations, all very bright. And there's nothing like going into your office and seeing a big, burly Marine there buzzing you in... it fills you with all sorts of confidence ;)

    That said, like I cautioned earlier, add up the price and consider the student debt you'll be getting yourself into here. If your parents are helping or you have other sources of funding, go for it. Otherwise... well... I was all gung-ho about getting an MA and heading off to save the world with State, but it would've left me strapped with a ton o' debt and a low-paying job in the DC housing market, where a decent sized home runs at least $300,000 and is far from wherever I'd be working. Given I'm a married man who'd like to have kids and a wife that can stay at home with them, making around $45,000 for starters in the DC area just doesn't cut it, even though I realize I'd spend a great deal of my career overseas. I'd like my kids to have a REAL house, not a tiny townhouse or condo.

    Your priorities may vary, but just keep in mind the matter of money. Going to Georgetown is probably your best bet - its long list of distinguished alumni and faculty should prove that - but with an annual tuition of $33,000, you would leave school with over $130,000 in debt, not including any interest, and step into a job in a housing market where you can barely afford to live, let alone make student loan payments.

    Just something to keep in mind....
  20. OnceUGoMac macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2004
  21. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    You know what, complain as I do about our method of tertiary education payments we have it pretty good compared with you guys.

    4.5 years my total debt is about AUD$23,000 (US$17,200) and that's a lot because I repeated a bunch of subjects.

    The government foots the rest of the bill. Still not nearly as good as when University was free but better than when all the new legislation kicks in and Uni will be strictly for the rich as the number of full-fee paying places goes up to 50% of the course enrolment.
  22. celebrian23 macrumors 65816


    Mar 12, 2006
    Under the sun
    Take it from someone who just finnished up senior year. Financial stuff should be talked about often with your parents. You will regret not doing it. Trust me, you will be like every other idealistic 17 year old who applies to college. You think you'll get the dream job that starts at 100k. I thought that. Then reality hit. Always dream big, but be realistic too. USC financial aid sucks. It's not known as the university of spoild children for nothing. Talking about finances sucks, but you'll be glad you did.
  23. ChePibe macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2005
    Actually, I'm at BYU at the moment and it's a great school - but certainly not one of the greats. There's no MA program here, which is a bit of a let down, unless you want an MPA or MPP, neither of which interests me (how's that for a run-on sentence?).

    BYU's a good option given the international experience of the student body - over 50% have served overseas missions and at least 70% speak a foreign language. Their Arabic program is top notch (the Department of Education made BYU its Middle Eastern Language Resource Center), and other language programs are excellent as well.

    Obviously, however, there's the religious factor to consider... if you're not a Mormon, odds of you getting in are fairly slim it seems, but this could also be due to the fact that only a few non-Mormons actually apply.
  24. Kingsly thread starter macrumors 68040


    Well I hope (...) that my film career will cover some of the cost. Some films I made in high school apparently (according to people who went to/are in the USC film program and accomplished directors, film-people) kick a grad student film's a**. So yeah. I have no solid evidence other than theirs and other's opinions. :eek:

    *fingers crossed!*

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