Everyone copies everything. That's how everything works. From evolution to everything we know and do is copying. Absolutely everything is copying and building on something copied before.
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Google to Take on Apple in Health and Fitness Tracking with 'Google Fit'
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Everyone copies everything. That's how everything works. From evolution to everything we know and do is copying. Absolutely everything is copying and building on something copied before.
- That's wrong. If anything they're piggybacking off what Samsung has already done. They're not doing that either but it makes more sense that what you said.
- Exactly which services do you think Google copied?
- FUD. Which worse version of what?
So then it should be easy for you to find an example of one or more of their partners profiting from personal information taken from my iPhone with Apple's blessing. Not aggregate, crowd sourced data, mind you! Data that identifies me so that they can advertise directly to me.
GPS if you want accurate running distances. Pedometers are horribly inaccurate and always have been. The nano/nike+ accelerometer is somewhat better and ok for casual use but can easily be off by 5% or more, which makes it a joke for someone training for specific times or distances. Again, if your goal is accuracy in running distances, get a decent GPS watch. Garmins are my favorite.
To be fair... all companies that produce consumer electronics companies put other brand components into their devices.
And to be even more fair...Apple's implementation of a smart phone and tablet are life changing. The iPhone completely redefined our expectations of what a smart phone could be. We owe it to Apple for our ability to walk around with highly-capable and easy-to-use miniature computers in our pockets.
Last comment...Apple could be working on more big & life changing projects right now. However, there's no hard evidence to support nor refute that. Just because they haven't announced something doesn't mean they aren't working on some decent products.
Great...get ready to start seeing display ads start changing all around your web surfing once they get ahold of your data.
Reminder: Everything Google does is designed to feed their search advertising revenue. Making quality software or quality electronics is just a byproduct of their quest to acquire data to generate more ad clicks.
Reminder: Everything Google does is designed to feed their search advertising revenue. Making quality software or quality electronics is just a byproduct of their quest to acquire data to generate more ad clicks.
Your reply is kind of silly...Since I don't have access to your iPhone, how can I prove this?
However, feel free to read Apple's privacy policy. They clearly state the following, under the "How we use your personal information"
"We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising, and for loss prevention and anti-fraud purposes."
Why are you trying to contradict what Apple is clearing telling us?
Exactly
We need to stop this Samsung or google copying talk
Apple is the copyist
They all are
I'm sorry the entire thread is ridiculous so I'm just going to respond to this one.
- No, that is not the ONLY reason Google is doing this. The entire tech industry has been working towards this in some form or another (FitBit, etc.) and the bigger companies were likely waiting for whatever time works best for them to enter .. why? because there's money to be made. Google was developing Android because mobile was the future, and because there was money to be made. Not BECAUSE Apple went into mobile. Google has been working on health apps for years (in fact they had a whole website devoted to it, google health) but I guess this year is coinciding with the release of their wearables so this is the best time for them to release it. It just so happens that Google I/O is after Apple's WWDC so to you it seems like they're copying because Apple is the only company in the world that does anything of relevance? By the way, by your logic it would seem to me that Apple copied Google, I mean why else would they introduce iOS 8's extensions, they're just like Android intents system. Or how about 3rd party keyboards, backing up photos and making them available on any device, iCloud in general? You don't say Apple was doing it because Google doing it, when it comes to apple you thoughtfully say, "well it was something that the whole market had so Apple was making their own" which is true, and that's what Google is doing with this fitness thing.
- Google "usually" copies Apple.. again wrong. Both companies learn from each other. Did Apple do notification tray first? Didn't relaunch their cloud services 3x (iTools > .Mac > MobileMe to finally iCloud) in an effort to create a service closer to what Google has been offering since the release of Android?
- I can agree that Google's services are sometimes less elegant vs Apple's. In general Apple's are tighter and integrate better, no question about that. I still think Google does cloud better than Apple. Eitherway, yes Google does it for data. It also does it a lot cheaper than Apple. Some people are willing to give up privacy for a useful and free service (it's why Facebook is so popular).
While Google has some interesting, but at times bizarre ideas, how many are going to make it to a final product? Many are usually beta software. Apple will have released dozens of finished products that have already greatly enhanced peoples lives.
Some of Googles ideas are going to be hard for the general public to accept.
We already have Google Glass and people with privacy issues not wanting a face mounted camera.
I think the idea of driverless cars are something also is going to be hard to accept. Insurance liability issues, traffic accidents by driverless vehicles gone bad. A lot of liability issues.
Right...and Apple never shares the data it collects on you with its partners right?
Apple's business model is to get almost all its money from consumers, so it shares the interest of consumers in valuing privacy; therefore it actually shares very little.
Google makes almost all its money from advertising, so it shares the interest of advertisers in getting as much data about consumers as possible; therefore it shares as much as it can.
WWDC 2015 Apple announces search engine called iSearch
Apple Fanboys - "Google totally just came copy cats apple, they knew some day apple was going to make a search engine and they wanted to say they were first."
BTW Samsung released a health related app last year with their watch, so who copied who? but I don't know why I bother telling you. Your just going to say it was a failure and that they only did it to copy apple and be able to say first. You have an excuse for everything.
It is really not strange at all. Google had already been providing android users monthly activity data (miles ran, walking, biking etc) for probably over a year now and Google has shown interest in this as far back as 6 years ago.
With the upcoming Android wear platform this is actually a pretty logical move for Google.
Churches aren't angels either. Go to a sunday service and they preach on hate for the gays and other religions for not following the one true path.
Agreed, for the most part.
You are right... Apple rarely does something brand new, but rather takes something that already exists (the smartphone) and does it so much better. I'd say perfection, but there are always some flaws, but Apple comes damn close.
Apple didn't invent the computer, digital music players, smart phones, or really anything that they do now. But what they do, they typically do BETTER. However, they are still working on that whole office suite stuff
The thing is, sure these companies have made health related services and platforms, but have you tried to integrate any of that information? It's a nightmare (I have a Withings Scale). What Apple is doing is providing a platform that makes this easy for these developers to attach to, which creates an ecosystem.
The magic of Apple is in their execution. I've developed Android and iOS, and the iOS frameworks are 99% great and the language is expressive. Java and Android on the other hand requires about 4x the code and the frameworks never work as advertised. Ask anyone who has done an Android app with GPS or gyroscope and you'll see what I mean.
Apple's beta version is probably (I haven't looked into it) better than what these competitors have on the market today, if anyone has even heard of it.
Yes, the other side of Apple's magic is definitely marketing, but in most cases their marketing is buttressed with a great end-product that "just works" (I place that in quotes because there is always times where it doesn't work, but in comparison to others...)
You are right... Apple rarely does something brand new, but rather takes something that already exists (the smartphone) and does it so much better. I'd say perfection, but there are always some flaws, but Apple comes damn close.
Apple didn't invent the computer, digital music players, smart phones, or really anything that they do now. But what they do, they typically do BETTER. However, they are still working on that whole office suite stuff
The thing is, sure these companies have made health related services and platforms, but have you tried to integrate any of that information? It's a nightmare (I have a Withings Scale). What Apple is doing is providing a platform that makes this easy for these developers to attach to, which creates an ecosystem.
The magic of Apple is in their execution. I've developed Android and iOS, and the iOS frameworks are 99% great and the language is expressive. Java and Android on the other hand requires about 4x the code and the frameworks never work as advertised. Ask anyone who has done an Android app with GPS or gyroscope and you'll see what I mean.
Apple's beta version is probably (I haven't looked into it) better than what these competitors have on the market today, if anyone has even heard of it.
Yes, the other side of Apple's magic is definitely marketing, but in most cases their marketing is buttressed with a great end-product that "just works" (I place that in quotes because there is always times where it doesn't work, but in comparison to others...)
They can't act any worse than some of the people I see on the road now. Even if they do flake out on you, they'll be driving exactly the speed limit the moment they do, and you can take the wheel away from them at any time.
Contrast this with this guy I saw the other day who flew by me in a convertible on the interstate the other day, yakking his head off on a bluetooth headset while playing around with his cellphone in hand, and steering the car with his knees. Sad to say, but...yeah, I'd trust a potentially buggy computer that could spaz out the moment it gets a 1 instead of a 0 to not kill me over that guy.
...and the really sad thing is he's not a rare exception. We treat driving as a passive activity way too often.
Listen to what I am saying. It's not that you are copying. It's how you go about doing it that makes you look like you are following trends rather than creating them. It's very much a lets shoe horn in whatever we can as fast as we can to say it's there. It's not a very thoughtful approach. There is a reason why MSFT and APPL don't have a reputation for copying even though they copy just as much as GOOG and Samsung....like Samsung rushed out that iWatch but we've known since forever that APPL had been working on a watch. if one comes out now no one is going to think of APPL as copying because it was first associated with APPL.
- Google Fit is basically a new incarnation of Google Health which launched in 2008.
- Maps, Cloud storage, large email attachments... these are only a few example off the top of my head of services which Google started to offer years before Apple.
- I might agree about the privacy issues, but many of Google's services and products came before Apple's version and are top quality. As example, Apple Maps was a disaster when introduced and today is still much worse than Google Maps in my area.
Oh Boy!!! I cannot WAIT to give Google more personal infos…. oh goody…..:roll eyes: They're SUCH a good company and they got my back…….. yeah right! I MUST trust them when I sign-up for its services and give "real" infos, such as name and cell #………… hehehe. Google, heaven sent……….. NOT!
To the haters, so I'm (we) a "fan boy"……… U got a problem with that??
To the haters, so I'm (we) a "fan boy"……… U got a problem with that??