GOP congressman claims Democrats are communists

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by leekohler, Apr 11, 2012.

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    leekohler

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    Seriously? When will the GOP wake up?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...crats-are-communists-20120411,0,6102290.story
     
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    Deja Vu (All Over Again)

    In 1950, Joseph McCarthy spoke at a campaign rally in Missouri about the two types of Democrats:

    1. Democrats
    2. Commie-crats

     
  3. MorphingDragon, Apr 12, 2012
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    Oh yea?

    I'd much rather be this:
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    than this:
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    That's a funny looking Hammer and Sickle you got flying there America. :cool:

    This is just silly. Surely not understanding basic political principles is enough justification to kick these smart people out.
     
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    I Google'd him and got this from his time in Iraq.

    Iraq interrogation incident
    While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]
     
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    I do love the phrase "card-carrying." I'd love to see someone whip out their wallet, slap it down on the desk and tell West to find the damned card.

    It is me or has the red-baiting increased in the last year?
     
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    I know it'l probably never happen as it will eventually with my comparison, but I REALLY wish that being called a communist or socialist wasn't something 'bad', like calling someone 'gay' is. They feel a need to "disown" the charge, true or not.

    Who care if you're gay (or socialist, or communist) or w/e.

    We should take in all ideas from everywhere on the political spectrum.

    No one ideology has it 100% right.
     
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    Its not bad in most of the world.
     
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    rdowns

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    What a tool. Probably a fund raising scheme which will probably work.

    This is the guy that Palin and Herman Cain think would make a good running mate for Romney.
     
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    If the Democrats had any balls, they'd start a concerted effort to make "conservative" a bad word. How much better off would we be if "conservative" was a word Republicans were afraid to own up to?

    "Liberal", "socialist", "communist" and "labor" all have been saddled with negative connotations, placing them somewhere between "used car salesman" and "rapist". How'd we let that happen?
     
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    Welcome to the Vapid States of America.

    Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get any worse, it does.
     
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    MorphingDragon

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    World War II/Cold War pro-US propaganda.
     
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    Sydde

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    Curiously, across the pond, "Liberal" and its equivalents are often used to describe what we call RWs. "Neoliberal" is very similar to "Libertarian" in American, and the Greens in German, if I was hearing correctly, are characterized as conservatives.
     
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    jnpy!$4g3cwk

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    OK, name some of your favorite "communists". Marx I assume. How about Lenin? Stalin? Mao? Jiang Qing? Pol Pot?
     
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    It is good that you put the word in quotes, because none of those people represent the real ideal of communism, which should be much closer to anarcho-syndicalism in practice. The idea that those words should become vicious slurs (like "Republican" or "Tea-Bagger") really only serves to stifle discussion at a time when we really need to be able to talk to instead of at or past each other (a persistent need that should not ever be ignored). When these words are flung out, their purpose is to say "Shut up, your an ijit, I don't wanna talk to you no more. You mother was a hamster and you father smelt of elderberries. Now go away, sons of a silly person, before I taunt you a second time!"

    Hmm, sorry about that, it is starting to get to me ...
     
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    Because most people want to believe they are conservative. No one wants to be a socialist, its dependent and weak. People do enjoy socialism under any other name though, especially if you make them feel they are paying their own way ie medicare.
     
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    I love the wobble of dubstep, first thing in the morning... the genre-expanding kind, even more so.

    This documentary does a pretty job of explaining the McCarthyism*



    *The political action of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.
     
  17. leekohler, Apr 12, 2012
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    Are you serious? How pathetic. This is how I think of it- together, we're stronger. When we work together to build each other up, we're better off.

    It's when we think we can do everything on our own is when we fail. When we think we don't need anyone else's help is when we lose. We all need help at some point.

    How funny you say this as an ex-pat in Kommunist Kanada, who has already admitted that universal health care works better than our system in the US.

    It's not weakness to ask for help. It's strength of character. It's admitting that you need others. To deny that is sheer stupidity and ego.

    And no- most people do NOT want to be conservative. Especially when they victimize and exploit race and sexual orientation to divide and separate people. Zombie, what a sad thing for you to say.

    Most people do NOT want to be conservative by your definition. They want community, family and togetherness. They want to love and support each other.

    At least that's my experience. Maybe you think that being an island is better. But trust me, that approach only works for so long, and when you someday need help, most likely no one will be there for you.
     
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    jnpy!$4g3cwk

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    Quotes are good when people use words differently. If you meet someone who suffered directly under the Red Guards at the behest of Mao and Jiang Qing, and, the Red Guards stated they are "communists", you might believe them. Just as if you suffered at the hands of the Inquisition and the perpetrators told you they were "christian". Were the Bolsheviks and Maoists "communists"? It depends.

    As for capitalism vs socialism: John Updike had a nice phrase in "The Coup" about capitalist incentives and socialist ameliorations... I don't have it handy for the exact quote.
     
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    its because they are, look at the way Obama has put our country twords. All the unconstitutional bills he signed and is trying to pass. GOP FTW. Theres no reason not to like us, unless you like hugging trees, higher prices, killing babies, and wanting a peace that is impossible to come when the state of the world is so unstable.
     
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    Wow. Just wow.

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    Whats the problem?
     
  22. MorphingDragon, Apr 13, 2012
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    I put my pants on one DubStep at a time.

    >.>

    The uncensored version of the video is hilarious. You could probably guess what the name is.

    If we get to call those people true communists then I get to call the GOP Capitalists and use them as reasons for why we should abolish the private sector and democracy.

    Though if you do want an Example, one of my "favourite" communists/socialists/SDs is Eduard Bernstein. He invented the idea and the means to transition to a Socialist state without uprising of the proletariat.
     
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    Everything you said.
     
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    Well the thread is anti-republican and I'm a Proud Republican, and its true, People dont like us because of small mistakes that we make, but Obama has made HUGE mistakes and so many other Democrat presidents have to, I Dont know of one major failure/mistake by a republican president, and dont say the Iraq War because Their people were in trouble and We went and helped them and they thank us, Then the war with Al queida, Why wouldn't we be at war with them, they attacked us and thats a declaration of war, and we were not going to let that stand.
     
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    George Bush said Bin Laden wasn't important anymore and gave up looking for him.

    Obama got him.


    And I'm not going to get into Ronald Reagan because you are obviously trolling.
     

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