GOP Senators Join Stem Cell Dissension (was: nuclear option)

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by IJ Reilly, May 26, 2005.

  1. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    This one broke my irony meter. What ever became of straight up-or-down votes? Filibusters in only "extraordinary circumstances," and "the tyranny of the minority?"

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-stemcell26may26,1,2250411.story
     
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    Because it's always better that sick people die or stay in Hospice than indeterminate-destiny zygotes be treated as any other "spare donated tissue" culture.

    Are we to save all donated Sperm and Ovum too because every potential life deserves a chance at life?

    Shall we punnish women for menstruating after having sex? Shall we fine men for masturbating?

    Shall we require that all fertility specialist MD's be Ordained because Human Life and the process of fertilization are, apparently sacrosanct?
     
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    With respect to IJ's highlighted section:

    I was going to say (in the other thread) that these Republicans are unlike any I've ever seen before. And I'm not just talking about their far-right politics.

    Even when you think you have resolved an issue, you have to watch out for the whammy. Think the nuclear option issue is settled? I fully expect them to double-cross us. Probably it will come in the form of nominating a far-right judge to replace Rehnquist in the near future...at which point the issue will explode all over again.

    If it isn't that, then it's trouble-making on multiple fronts at once. Since Bush's re-election, they have been out of control: ANWR, bankruptcy restrictions, Social Security, attacking the filibuster, attacking judges...all only five months into the new administration. Fifty-five months left to go....

    I know I'm moving from the stem cell issue in particular into more general issues, but I have to say this: I don't like to reduce politicians to the simplistic level of cartoon characters, but I think it's become appropriate in the case of the neo-cons who are currently controlling the Republican party. These people are not just folks with which we are having honest disagreements. They are evil, and I use that term purposely. They delight in grabbing and abusing power; they have raging egos; they don't care how badly they have to distort facts or outright lie to get their way; they preach morals while practicing none; they care only about money and power, not what's good for the country.

    You might argue that all politicians are guilty of such excesses at some time of another, and you'd be right, but we're talking 24/7, wall-to-wall hypocrisy and power-tripping here. Politics has ceased even to be a joke; now it's downright retching, revolting, sickening.

    (I only wish the moderate Republicans, having made an alliance with the devil in exchange for control of the Presidency and Congress, would find the courage to stand up to their "colleagues". But that's not gonna happen.)

    So yeah, evil. I wish I could find a hint of actual conscience or principle or humanity in the actions of the neo-cons, but I can't.
     
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    Hmm... I think you may have just hit on a method of balancing the federal budget! Of course, a lot of guys might see this as a pretty severe tax increase...
     
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    Yes!!

    Unholy!!

    Sinner!!

    Fifty lashes and a five thousand dollar fine!!!

    :eek: ;) :rolleyes: :D
     
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    Murder is murder.
     
  8. IJ Reilly thread starter macrumors P6

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    Another interesting little factoid I discovered with a bit of research: Even with the current 55/44/1 split in the Senate in favor of the Republicans, Democrats in the Senate still represent the majority of the US population (50.75% vs. 49.15%). Say, wasn't that almost precisely the Bush margin of victory in 2004? So maybe it's the Democrats who should be spending their "political capital."
     
  9. mischief macrumors 68030

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    I've actually seen similar numbers that put the spread much wider in the Dem's favor. Those #'s included stats for turnout too; Rebs vote more consistently. Unfortunately the lunch rush is starting so I can't really dig them up at the moment... :eek:
     
  10. IJ Reilly thread starter macrumors P6

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    I get a rush at lunch sometimes too. Depends on what I eat.

    These stats were compiled by yours truly. I looked up the populations of the states (2000 census) and divided by the number of senators from those states.
     
  11. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Aha.

    Clarification: I'm bartending at the moment and do all the cashiering for the restaurant... hence my odd pattern of posting.

    The stats I recall were taken from party registration numbers. According to the census there's about 70% Dems out there. I'll find the data tomorrow some time.*shrug*
     

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