graphics benchmarks old 11" vs new 11"

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by quisguous, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. macrumors newbie


    Jun 9, 2009
    I've been looking for a reason not to upgrade to the latest MBA. You see, I'm rather fond of having the latest and greatest, but its probably better if I didn't spend all my money on computer upgrades. :)

    I thought I had my excuse in the seemingly downgraded video chipset, since I'm currently rocking an 11" MBA with the Nvidia 320M and the new MBA's only got the Intel HD3000. Alas, even discounting the fact that my MBA probably has more background stuff going than the brand-spanking-new MBA I tested in Best Buy, and also discounting for the benchmark not being totally representative of the games I play and all that, it seems that the new MBA is doing ok in the graphics department:

    My MBA

    Results 62.73
    Xbench Version 1.3
    System Version 10.7 (11A511)
    Physical RAM 4096 MB
    Model MacBookAir3,1
    Drive Type Macintosh (aka OWC Mercury Aura)
    Quartz Graphics Test 129.30
    Line 121.32 8.08 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 142.33 42.49 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 113.84 9.28 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 133.08 3.36 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 140.78 8.81 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 83.65
    Spinning Squares 83.65 106.12 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 35.54
    Elements 35.54 163.10 refresh/sec

    Best Buy's MBA

    Results 120.78
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.3
    System Version 10.7 (11A2063)
    Physical RAM 2048 MB
    Model MacBookAir4,1
    Drive Type APPLE SSD SM064C
    Quartz Graphics Test 266.79
    Line 257.45 17.14 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 339.03 101.22 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 250.11 20.39 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 227.80 5.75 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 284.16 17.78 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 105.54
    Spinning Squares 105.54 133.89 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 86.10
    Elements 86.10 395.13 refresh/sec
  2. macrumors 6502


    May 18, 2011
    Almost doubled the score, thats good, although I dont know what a good score it
  3. macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
  4. thread starter macrumors newbie


    Jun 9, 2009
  5. macrumors 6502a

    Sep 1, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Yeah, but how are the graphics under Windows?? It seems like everything being compared and benchmarked right now is for OSX Lion when comparing to the 2010 model. There must be a reason why last year's Air was thoroughly benchmarked in Windows 7 and this year's model seems to be avoided.
  6. macrumors regular

    Apr 16, 2011
    Or maybe it's because the Air was released today and nobody got a chance to install w7 and games on it yet...
  7. macrumors 6502a

    Sep 1, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Good point! Probably most folks are still downloading Lion.
  8. macrumors 65816


    Jun 18, 2009
    New Zealand
    I'm wondering why is it the build version different to the Golden Master?

    GM = 10.7 (11A511)
    MacBook Air 2011 = 10.7 (11A2063)

    Anyone? :confused:
  9. macrumors 6502

    Jul 12, 2011
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    The MacBook air got a great update
  10. macrumors 68030


    Oct 17, 2007
    Fort Worth, TX
    I don't even have the upgraded 5870 graphics card on my Mac Pro, I have the Radeon 5770, and here is how mine turned out:

    Results 385.30
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.3
    System Version 10.7 (11A511)
    Physical RAM 12288 MB
    Model MacPro5,1
    Drive Type OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD
    Quartz Graphics Test 381.75
    Line 377.82 25.15 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 531.09 158.56 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 385.94 31.46 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 322.33 8.13 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 347.89 21.76 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 386.35
    Spinning Squares 386.35 490.10 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 387.86
    Elements 387.86 1.78 Krefresh/sec

    Having a desktop-powered discreet graphics card really makes a difference.
  11. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 27, 2004
    Why would people be rushing to benchmark a MAC laptop in Windows 7? What's the point? If you want a laptop to game in Windows 7 there are a million choices better than a MBA, with discrete graphics cards and the lot.

    Did you think that it wouldn't? Why would one compare a desktop graphics card to Intel's Integrated chip? Intel's chip also takes about 6-8W of Power. The 5770 takes 108W under load. Not sure they're gonna get a 108W GPU into the MBA anytime soon! :rolleyes:
  12. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 28, 2011
    We're down to the 28nm process on graphics cards in Q4 of this year (down from 40nm).

    After 28nm I think the next step is 16nm or 20-22nm... I forget.

    Every time the process is reduced, the amount of power required is reduced. Essentially once we get down to around the lowest possible nm process on a silicon chip, we're looking at not only insane graphics performance on a desktop... but huge benefits for laptops! :D

    Of course, silicon isn't necessarily the way of the future. Things may change before the nm process is reduced down to super super low amounts on silicon. We might switch to who knows what!

    The 7000-series by Radeon will be out this year by December and will feature 28nm cards... insane performance boosts. In a few years (3-4) we're looking at real-time ray tracing in games due to the graphics boost offered purely by the advancement in the nm process. The gist of it all: Tech is looking good for a while to come.
  13. macrumors regular

    Feb 4, 2011
    Now put that box in a small bag, leave home and then try using it without plugging it in the wall at your preferred location.

    Mr Orange: "I hate them Apples!" (what? he didn't say that?)
  14. macrumors 68030


    Oct 17, 2007
    Fort Worth, TX
    I was just making a comparison to a desktop-level card (which, the 5770 provides about 3x faster graphics than the HD 3000). You're also driving a much lower-resolution display on the MacBook Air, so it's really not as much of an issue.
  15. macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2011
    That was my theory as well... figured an NVIDIA chip that lived by itself (not built into the CPU) and had 32 pipelines instead of only 12 would do far better, but it appears to be benching much lower than the HD 3000.

    However, I will only be satisfied if I can see some video of side-by-side in game rendering and gameplay FPS comparisons so we can see how it is stacking up in real application.
  16. macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2011
    All the negativity about the removal of the 320m but HD 3000 looks to be doing pretty well.
  17. macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
    Where is the 320m showing a lower benchmark then the HD 3000?

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