Why does everyone assume Apple is forced to comply by putting a usb c port when they have more options then that. They could just not offer product to EU which I know is unlikely option or they could eliminate charging port altogether and they could also do it add the usb c port and just be like yeah that port just added 1k to phone cost so a 1200 iPhone in us and same phone in eu is 2200 I could totally see them do that one
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Greg Joswiak: Apple Will Have to Comply With the EU and Switch iPhone to USB-C
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EU didn't do this just because of Apple. There are so many things still using Mirco USB.
lol delusional. they will not alienate a major part of their market just to make a point.
When you go travelling, even to stay with relatives, you take an iPad Pro and an iPhone, it’s nice to use the same charger and cable for both devices.. and it’s about damn time the iPhone followed the iPad in this regard and dumped the incredibly slow, by todays standards, lightning port speeds.
If it wasn’t for the EU the iPhone would be stuck on USB 2 speeds for ever. I’ve also never once had an Apple port break on a device in all the years I’ve had iPhones since the iPhone 3.
In your scenario if you travelled with an iPad and iPhone you’d also need a separate wireless charging base too. That’s unnecessary.
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Why do people say this? If Apple stopped selling the iPhone in Europe, Apple wouldn’t exist anymore, it’s stock price would plummet to nothing and fast. Because it would purposely be denying itself billions in profits and sales. Out of spite.
Yes. It specifically allows for the requirements to be updated as a result of technological progress. From the directive text: "It is also necessary to provide the basis for adaptation to any future scientific and technological progress or market developments, which will be continuously monitored by the Commission."
This is unlikely. USB-C itself just specifies a physical connector format. In the future, new cables and new signalling technologies could allow even higher data speeds and charging power, while retaining backwards compatibility with the same physical plug.
Nevertheless, should some compelling new technology eventually come along that obsoletes the USB-C physical connector, the standard is written and intended to be updated in response.
I wonder if the youtuber who converted an iphone to USB-C a year or so ago way before Apple possibly even considered it, will get any royality payments because he could claim that Apple has stolen his idea.
"iPhone 15 Pro, more Pro than ever with USB-C speeds and +150W power transfer"
"this is awesome, Apple is bringing latest tech to the iPhone"
"outstanding data transfer performance"
"years ahead competition..." -10 years later...-
"great new feature"
"now"
"wow"
"Apple's USB-C charging cables already available in the Apple store from just USD29.99"
"this is awesome, Apple is bringing latest tech to the iPhone"
"outstanding data transfer performance"
"years ahead competition..." -10 years later...-
"great new feature"
"now"
"wow"
"Apple's USB-C charging cables already available in the Apple store from just USD29.99"
so do you think USB-C European iPhones will be limited to USB 2.0 speed as it is Lighting or USA customers will be mad as hell because EU counterparts can transfer files at >5GBs speed??
BTW who put "lighting" as name to something so slow?, shouldn't be the name "turtling"???
Thunderbolt is after USB-C and it uses the same plug shape.
The law dictates that one port must be a common standard, not that it must be USB-C. There can be a future new connector, but it must be implemented as a common standard.
of course it does, unless they change the legislation (which no one ever does fast) you are stuck with that
Pretty much. The EU almost did this 10 years ago when micro-USB was the standard. As you may recall, Lightning had the advantage over micro-USB in being reversible.
The EU are hell bent on implementing measures to combat global warming and enviromental issues and the EU is basically saying to companies that if they wish to carry on working with the EU then they must change their ways.
In my opinion what has annoyed the EU so much is that there is environmental issues and global warming issues which many are aware of but yet big businesses do not seem to be bothered or care about doing anything to help with regards to e-waste. As the EU pointed out and rightly so again in my opinion is that there does not need to be so many different AC/DC charging/power adapters with their own cables which is contributing to increases in e-waste. Why not have a universal standard BUT none of the worlds electronic manufacturers appeared to be interested in helping until governments stepped in and forced them to do so.
If Apple is so focused on it's contribution to the environment then why didn't they come up with the idea to have one universal connector standard for power/charging?. Why did it have to be forced upon them?
In my opinion what has annoyed the EU so much is that there is environmental issues and global warming issues which many are aware of but yet big businesses do not seem to be bothered or care about doing anything to help with regards to e-waste. As the EU pointed out and rightly so again in my opinion is that there does not need to be so many different AC/DC charging/power adapters with their own cables which is contributing to increases in e-waste. Why not have a universal standard BUT none of the worlds electronic manufacturers appeared to be interested in helping until governments stepped in and forced them to do so.
If Apple is so focused on it's contribution to the environment then why didn't they come up with the idea to have one universal connector standard for power/charging?. Why did it have to be forced upon them?
And i have never has the USB port fail on me.
Perhaps you should not buy cheap cables and misuse the port.
I have lost more lightning cables than micro usb ports.
I have had my lightning port clogged from lint and particulate than as the hole is bigger than any usb c port on any device I have.
We never hear about usb c ports failing on MacBooks. We even heard about the keyboard failing for a minority of people but nobody complained about the port.
Exactly. Sure. Theoretically a company could ask the USB-IF to approve a new standard, but no one has a competitive reason to do so anymore.
The larger question is, what will people complain about for the next 5 years?
They’re gonna be devastated.
They’re gonna be devastated.
They'll find something, don't worry
He isn't going to say but every rumor so far is it will be in the 15. They could've waited til the 16 if they wanted though.
NO! This is a common misconception.
The USB consortium, or an alternative consortium backed by the major companies, makes a proposal for a new standard, with commitment to update to this standard within a certain time frame. This is presented to the EU, who will likely approve if the major companies are in agreement. They will then pass a law that past a given point in the future, all new product introductions must follow the new standard.
This happens all the time with e.g. safety standards. EU is not preventing evolution, they are forcing the big companies to work together. This is good. If the EU did not do this, all your appliances would have much higher stand-by power consumption than the current status.
It’s a more question of how much e waste? It’s inevitable also better remove the bandage now rather than later.
EU have requested this for close to a decade on a voluntary basis and strongly encourage it. until they said enough is enough.
Apple have been stubborn
wasn't Apple the first to get rid of all ports and have only USB C on their machines...?
('cept the 3.5 mm audio jack).
fyi, the 3.5 mmm audio connector was invented in the 50's, and improved upon over the decades.
meaning it's been relevant for approx 60 yrs!!
myself, kinda prefer corded headphones (don't need to make sure they're charged)... 🤷🏽♂️
all this hate for the Lightning Connector (introduced in 2012), which solved a lot of problems the 30 pin connector it replaced,... a decade is not a bad run for advancing technology.
wondering how long USB C will be relevant,...(?)
someone has to build the better "mouse trap", probably will come from necessity,
(sez the guy typing this on an Apple machine bought in 2020 that has USB C and 3.5 mm audio jack).
('cept the 3.5 mm audio jack).
fyi, the 3.5 mmm audio connector was invented in the 50's, and improved upon over the decades.
meaning it's been relevant for approx 60 yrs!!
myself, kinda prefer corded headphones (don't need to make sure they're charged)... 🤷🏽♂️
all this hate for the Lightning Connector (introduced in 2012), which solved a lot of problems the 30 pin connector it replaced,... a decade is not a bad run for advancing technology.
wondering how long USB C will be relevant,...(?)
someone has to build the better "mouse trap", probably will come from necessity,
(sez the guy typing this on an Apple machine bought in 2020 that has USB C and 3.5 mm audio jack).