GulfGate?

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  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article311818.ece

    This adds an interesting twist. I was wondering just where they were pumping all that sh*t to that's coming out of New Orleans. After all, they've been telling us for days how toxic and e-coli-filled it is, full of decomposing corpses, excrement and oil. That's gotta do some serious damage.
     
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    kinda sadly reminds me of the old joke: "What is an eel doing in the Rhine ? Studying chemistry"
     
  3. Xtremehkr macrumors 68000

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    I get the feeling that the carefully constructed house of cards that NeoCon philosophy is built on is about to start falling down around them.
     
  4. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Perhaps they mistake "less government" for "less responsibility"?
     
  5. JesseJames macrumors 6502a

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    My God. It only makes sense. New Orleans is basically an open sewer right now. And they're pumping all that water (untreated) back into the Lake.

    It can't be said enough. Catastrophe in every sense of the word.
    And the government is playing the f**king blame game?
    UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE.
     
  6. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    And the river, and the sea. I wonder what it'll do the the coastal environment around the Gulf of Mexico.
     
  7. takao macrumors 68040

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    belief it or not on TV they said that there are oyster farms pretty close ;)

    (the US accepted the additional german THW pumps but turned down the offer of water treatment equipment :rolleyes: )
     
  8. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Get ready for GM oysters...
     
  9. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    The staggering environmental damage was essentially a given, but I think the disturbing element being introduced here is the lack of testing, and possibly, of candor, about the long-term effects. Not sure what difference might be made at this point by knowing just how toxic the crap they're pumping into Lake Pontchartrain really is, though. It's not like a world of other options are available right now.
     
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    the problem is that there are no 'good' alternatives right now.

    I agree that things have been messed up, response has been abismal, the problem should be acknowledged and of course EPA should be the agency in charge.
    but as far as dealing with the (literal) crap -the situation being what it is NOW- what would be a better course of action that pumping the waters out and hoping that the environmental damage is not too bad?
    They can't just leave it there. the sheer volume of the water makes it basically untreatable in loco in reasonable time. I would hope that they dump it mostly in the river (which shoud be able to take it better) rather than the lake, but it's got to go somewhere.
     
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    "Measuring" might be more useful than "hoping".
     
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    And "plausible deniability" is better than "lying."

    See also: Iraq's WMDs; Levee warnings
     
  14. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Some deniabilities are more plausible than others.
     
  15. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    And it's easy to take a "didn't know" and spin it into a "couldn't know".

    See Tobacco Cancers; 9/11
     
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    Yes, yes. I just don't honestly see what difference such a discussion could have made. Leave the water in the streets of New Orleans, environmental disaster. Pump it back in to Lake Pontchartrain, environmental disaster. You tell me which option is objectively better by any standard.
     
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    Great. This is just getting better and better.. :rolleyes:
     
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    it's a crappy situation all around, but not unfamiliar w/ this adminstration. when the car's already left the cliff, and the driver says "well, what's your bright idea?", all we can say is, "i'm the one who told you to slow down."
     
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    Well their level of candor after 9/11 doesn't give me much hope for a true version of the level of pollution in New Orleans. In fact, I'd be inclined to believe that if the Bush administration says it's safe that it's actually highly unsafe, they just feel the public is better served by being lied to.
     
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    link
     
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    I don't think the water can be that bad if there's still plenty of fish in there.
     
  22. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    That photoshop effort seems to convey this administration down to a T.
     
  23. Sayhey macrumors 68000

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    More details on the possible environmental concerns in New Orleans.

    Solid Wast & Recycling from TPM
     
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    Ironically, those "idle school bus" photos we've been seeing are buses parked on this landfill.
     
  25. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    How about getting one of Bush's oil company buddies to build a pipeline, and pump it to the Washington D.C. water system?
     

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