Half Life 2 for the Mac Petition

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  1. mac.head.high macrumors regular

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    thechris69 already mentioned this in a post, so he gets the credit, but he didn't make it a thread, so the initiative is mine.

    This is a petition for Half Life 2 to be ported to the Macintosh System. Lets let the developers and publishers know our numbers. Every little bit counts, and even if you don't intend to play or own this game, I urge you to sign it anyways. Just think of it as giving back to the Mac community. Or whatever reasons justify it in your mind.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?hl2mac
     
  2. Veldek macrumors 68000

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    It’s not that porting companies don’t want to port HL2. It’s just that the Havoc engine is just too expensive, because Valve (?) is to greedy in this case. So sign every petition you want, it won’t change anything.
     
  3. mac.head.high thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah, thanks for your vote of confidence. Sign it anyways.
     
  4. Veldek macrumors 68000

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    You’re welcome ;)

    Actually, I really like to have HL2 on the Mac, especially as I suffer because I can’t play DOD:S which I’d really like to do. But I still don’t belive that this petition will do anything to change this, sorry.
     
  5. Dagless macrumors Core

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    I agree with Veldek. All the petitions in the world won't get HL2 on a Mac.

    I'd only get it if the whole Steam system comes over with it. So I wouldn't have to re-purchase HL2.
     
  6. mac.head.high thread starter macrumors regular

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    I'm not the author of the petition, but you're killing my buzz. I know this is a discussion board, but there is no need for nay-saying. Notice I intentionally left out a phrase resembling "I would appreciate your opinions in the matter", because in this instance, unlike every other post or discussion I've started, I don't appreciate your opinions in the matter. Unless there constructive or solution oriented.

    I'm not taking a poll with this post. It's a function to distribute a message and a means.

    So again I repeat, now in a condescending tone: Yeah, thanks for your vote of confidence. Sign it anyways, unless your a Communist.


    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?hl2mac
     
  7. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Calling people Communists is not going to make them want to sign your petition. :p

    And I think it's good that people are expressing their thoughts on the petition here, whether you personally like it or not. It gives people something to think about, as opposed to just blindly signing something - perhaps Veldek and others will help to explain to people why this hasn't occurred yet, and will manage people's expectations on the likely success of the survey, so people don't have misconceptions on the outcome.

    Plus, it's all a moot point anyway, because once HL2 actually does finally come out for the Mac, your buddy will already have started his petition for a port of HL3... ;) :cool:
     
  8. Mord macrumors G4

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    edit: damn macrumors wont accept russia text, my joke was lost in ????'s
     
  9. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    There's nothing wrong with communism, it's a fine economic system. The United Federation of Planets in Star Trek is communist. You're getting mixed up with socialism (a modified communist economy where a dictator controls everything). :p

    [/nitpicker]

    Anyway, look, it's not going to do anything. Valve CAN NOT port Half-Life 2 if the Havok engine is not ported first. We need a petition for Havok, not HL2.
     
  10. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Ah well, it's the thought that counts... ;)
     
  11. jrv3034 macrumors 6502a

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    I'll sign it, but I think we have a better shot at somebody figuring out how to run PC games on Intel Macs using WINE. :eek:

    Oh, and shouldn't we be petitioning for Half-Life 1 first? I'll sign that one, too!
     
  12. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Off topic but...
    What is it with Americans poking at communism. I've never heard it mentioned once in any school/college/university/pub/skatepark/cinema etc or UK based forum. It's not like you've even experienced it. Like what GLFPraxis said theres nothing really wrong with it. It just gets thrown in with Socialism in America for some reason.
    Unless of course you have experienced Communisim or aren't just echoing what US Cartoon shows say about it.
     
  13. Mord macrumors G4

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    their is nothing about socialism indicates a need for a dictator, just many dictatorships have claimed to be socialist for the sake of propaganda (the nazi party for example), conservatives calling socialists evil because many dictators claim to be socialists is akin to someone criticizing someone for being a good person because some idiot says he's good too.

    socialism is just an umbrella ethos for a state run economy in moderation it equates to the welfare state, in totalitarian it means complete economic collapse due to people not bothering to do anything as their is no economic reward to it.
     
  14. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

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    We already have Havok; it's just that the Havok guys want loads of money to license it. Plus Valve wants loads of money for Half-Life 2 on its own. That's a double-whammy: (loads of money X 2) + (relatively small Mac games market) = Not Gonna Happen.

    Seriously, does anyone really think that all the petitions in the world will convince any porting company to take such a major financial loss so a few more people can play this game? If that's nay-saying, well, deal with it. (I'm speaking, mind you, as a 100% Mac-only gamer.)

    --Eric
     
  15. Marathon4ever macrumors regular

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    You got it right. Havok is necessary for Half-Life 2. But the issue with porting Havok previously was that it was heavily based on a different hardware set. Now that Mac has gone Intel, it is trivial to bring it over to our platform. I wouldn't be surprised if it's being done as we post.

    Even so, I encourage everyone to sign this petition, just so Valve and Sierra know how many people this is affecting.


    Also, people like jrv3034 need to realize the negative impact they have on the Mac plaform when they talk about running PC games on WINE or dual-boot or whatever. "Making do" with Windows is not the answer. Native Mac code is the only answer.
     
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  17. Marathon4ever macrumors regular

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    I find it hard to believe you are a 100% Mac-only gamer. Yes, we are a minority, but only for so much longer. We need to fight to get recognition and the games we want to play. We can't just cop out and say "Oh, we'll never get that game". Sure, you can be realistic, but you should at least be hopeful in addition.
     
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    Of course it's worth it! It's always worth it.
     
  19. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Ah, naive idealism - nothing beats it! :p :cool:
     
  20. crachoar macrumors 6502a

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    Off Topic Battle!


    Yes, we have so many 'US Cartoons' that teach you to hate communists, and also, to lump 'Socialism' in with 'Communism'. You're so right! Are you sure you don't live in the states!?


    And besides, have you experienced Communism? And if not, why haven't you? It's obviously working out for so many people. Don't knock the lack of free speech and information until you've tried it!


    On Topic...

    About 'Steam' coming to OSX? Who knows at this point. If the Intel Macs increase Apple's market share, it's possible. But VALVe's stance in previous years has been that they didn't view the Macintosh as a viable market for their audience. And really, they're probably right. They'd most likely break even. But, like I said, it's all speculation until we see how popular the new computers are.
     
  21. Marathon4ever macrumors regular

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    Um, actually Valve was convinced enough to nearly port the original Half-Life. It was like 95% ported before the project got canned. Supposedly, the port was taking too long, but who knows why the plug was really pulled. Good ol' Contraband made an impressive effort.
    I wonder if they'll ever release Abduction.
     
  22. Dagless macrumors Core

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    From memory, everytime communism is mentioned in Family Guy, Simpsons etc its always greeted as some kind of evil thing. Praxis also noted the way people get mixed up with Communism and Socialism.

    From experience. I spent some time in Poland during communism years and it wasn't half bad. I can't speak for all the Poles out there but a few of my family say they were better off. Its just easy to corrupt. but hey! we're getting into playing the obvious game now, like its obvious you're right about politics. Why don't you be a government advisor? I hear the pay is good.
     
  23. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Fully agreed, we Americans are brainwashed that Democracy = from god and all other forms of governments = bad, especially communism. Communism = t3h 3vil!!!1!


    I've officially been out-nitpicked.

    Anyway, back on topic.
     
  24. emaja macrumors 68000

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    Except for that whole being run over by tanks and shot at, it wasn't that bad! I could have done without the political abductions though.
     
  25. ReanimationLP macrumors 68030

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    Probably never gonna happen, since HL2s entire engine and everything uses Direct X heavily.
     

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