Haptic Feedback Company Immersion Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Apple

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    Immersion, a company that develops and licenses haptic touch feedback technology, today filed a lawsuit against Apple and AT&T accusing the two companies of patent infringement. Citing technologies like 3D Touch, Force Touch, the Apple Watch Taptic Engine, and vibration patterns for ringtones and notifications, Immersion says multiple Apple devices use its intellectual property.

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    According to Immersion, the iPhone 6, 6s, 6 Plus, 6s Plus, Apple Watch, Apple Watch Sport, and Apple Watch Edition infringe on several Immersion patents that cover haptic feedback systems. Immersion says all of the above listed devices infringe on two patents related to tactile sensations:

    - U.S. Patent No. 8,619,051: "Haptic Feedback System with Stored Effects"

    - U.S. Patent No. 8,773,356: "Method and Apparatus for Providing Tactile Sensations"

    The iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus are further accused of infringing on an additional patent, U.S. Patent No. 8,659,571, titled "Interactivity Model for Shared Feedback on Mobile Devices."
    While Apple is named in the lawsuit because it produces the devices that allegedly infringe on Immersion patents, it is less clear while AT&T is named. In the filing, Immersion claims AT&T sells Apple products and offers guides, directions, and other materials that "encourage and facilitate infringing use by others," but other mobile carriers are not mentioned or included in the lawsuit.

    Along with the patent infringement suit, Immersion has also filed a complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission, seeking an exclusion order that prevents the sale of the accused Apple devices in the United States.

    Article Link: Haptic Feedback Company Immersion Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Apple
     
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    Let me guess, the suit was filed in East Texas?
     
  4. DeftwillP macrumors 6502

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    Lol...are they saying they created haptic feedback and own all rights to it?
     
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    HI GUYS! I Just made some fresh popcorn, Anyone want some?

    This will be fun!
     
  6. gsmornot macrumors 68020

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    I better look out. I myself have told several people at least about haptic.
     
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    I just downloaded the Untouchables.
    Now when I read the comments in this thread I'll
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  8. gixxerfool macrumors 6502a

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    I am curious to see how this will play out. People say Apple can't patent the look of something. Immersion is saying they patented a sensation. Is there source code they used directly? What exactly would you license from Immersion?
     
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    Delaware.
     
  10. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    Well they basically put it on the map. I had a Logitech mouse that used Immersion haptic feedback around Win XP time. No one else was doing anything with haptic feedback then. Their patents are probably legit AND they aren't a patent troll company so I'll give this a least a shot before I'll blast them for patent abuse.
     
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    given its filed in Delaware (not East Texas) and that haptic feedback mimicking a "click" feel seems novel to me (as opposed to say the buzz for a notification being no different than silent mode rings) it's possible there's a real case here.
     
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    This needs to stop seriously... wonder how many vibrator companies they sued....
     
  14. Agilis macrumors member

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    This is stupid. Vibration patterns? Really? So this company thinks they can patent haptic feedback, which almost every Android device currently implements. Again, stupid.
     
  15. jon67 macrumors newbie

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    Immersion is for real. All the Android manufacturers have licensed from IMMR and you can get IMMR's haptic SDKs to develop for Android.
     
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  17. 2010mini macrumors 68030

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    Is a lawsuit against Google coming next? Because Android employs haptic feedback also.
     
  18. sw1tcher macrumors 65816

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    Not as stupid as a patent for rounded corners.


    Yes. The U.S. Patent office granted Immersion two patents related to tactile sensations:

    - U.S. Patent No. 8,619,051: "Haptic Feedback System with Stored Effects"

    - U.S. Patent No. 8,773,356: "Method and Apparatus for Providing Tactile Sensations"
     
  19. jon67 macrumors newbie

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    The Android manufacturers are Immersion licensees.
     
  20. sw1tcher macrumors 65816

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    No. Because Google is actually licensing their technology, unlike Apple.... if this lawsuit is valid.

    From http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/27/...lawsuit-from-immersion-over-motorola-haptics/

    Google settles patent lawsuit from Immersion over Motorola use of haptic feedback

    Nov. 27, 2012

    Immersion is known for guarding its haptic feedback patents with enthusiasm -- just ask Microsoft, among others. Motorola learned first-hand when Immersion sued over the use of basic haptic technology in May, but all that's water under the bridge now that Motorola's new parent Google is settling the matter out of court.

    While the exact sums aren't public, Google will pay Immersion to address any relevant past shipments, license the patents for future Motorola shipments and take care of "certain issues" with Google-badged hardware using the disputed vibration techniques. Immersion's end of the bargain is simply to end its legal action, including an ITC complaint, although the company makes clear that non-Motorola Android phones aren't covered by the deal.
     
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    "Haptic" sounds like slang from the 50s: Like that's haptic daddy-o!
     
  22. Fenez macrumors regular

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    As long as others seem to be paying for the right to use it, seems legitimate.
     
  23. jrlcopy macrumors 6502

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    You'll remember Immersion from such lawsuits as Sony and the PS3 and this company being the reason why the first couple years the PS3 lacked rumble tech in their controller.
     
  24. sir1963nz macrumors 6502

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    Huh, this reminds me of Rumble strips on roads ro lets people know by noise/feel that they area reaching the edge of their lane/road.
    I also recall pedestrians using these for the hearing/sight impaired on the crossings

    footpaths that have textured areas for the blind.

    There are a lot of examples out in the real world that is using this technique
     
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    I just downloaded the Untouchables. Now when I read the comments in this thread, I'll hear them in the voice of Sean Connery.



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